Posted by mybug67 on 06/14/09

Hi

Well it's time for Action here California! This is the REAL ID ACT of 2005 or National ID Card. SB 60 passed the State senate by a vote 24 yes to 15 no. Now in the Assembly!

SB 60 will have hearing on monday June 22nd in the Assembly in the Committee on Transportation. There are 14 Committee members 9DEM and 5 REP. It's time to do a phone blast,email or fax. They might vote on this bill that day!!

It's time for us C4L members to do are part and put some HEAT on the Committee and stop this! Down below are the name of the Committee members. You can also call the Committee phone number. (916) 319-2093 it only takes 5 to 10 minutes to call. This bill is an expensive endevor and will do more to endanger our Identity rather then protect it.

Mike Eng- Chair (D)  (916)-319-2049    

Kevin Jeffries- vice chair (R)  (916) 319-2066

Bob Blumenfield (D) (916) 319-2040

Joan Buchanan (D) (916) 319-2015

Connie Conway (R) (916)-319-2034

Warren T. Furutani (D) (916) 319-2055

Cathlean Galgiani (D) (916) 319-2017

Martin Garrick (R) (916) 319-2074

Bonnie Lowenthal (D) (916) 319-2054

Jeff Miller (R) (916) 319-2071

Rogar Niello (R) (916) 319-2005

John A. Perez (D) (916) 319-2046

Jose Solorio (D) (916) 319-2069

Tom Torlakson (D) (916) 319-2011

Posted 06/15/09 Elysiumboy Billericay, United Kingdom

Mybug67 - In Britain, the opposition and a majority of the people, including many high ranking police officers, claimed ID cards will not solve anything and cause a bigger upset in the system than they will help. They still went through, regardless of complaint. The work put in to push HR1207 through was nothing short of magnificent so you now know you can shout and make an impact. If you do not use that power now they will take it away with all these new schemes because Universal healthcare schemes and the likes, turn the general public against each other. Smokers and drinkers cost more to maintain and then, of course, there's obesity. And whilst we are being told we are wasters of life, the government are okay to kill a few thousand in a foreign land (obviously, that figure catapults if we include the "casualties of war". Must have all been terrorists then). What worries me more is how deep they delve into the banking world. We have experts in society that could tell your entire personality by how you spend your money and what you buy. I have voted in this poll, although I'm British, because I hate the thought of these cards that will hold a lot more detail about us than they claim.

Posted 06/15/09 celticreeler Rolla, MO

Though I wonder what she would replace it with, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano spoke in April of wanting to repeal the Real ID act of 2005: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/22/real.ID.debate/ That might provide justification for big government legislators to vote against it...the biggest government of all is already having second thoughts! Doesn't California have enough trouble already, without jumping on board Real ID, which may already be on life support?

Posted 06/15/09 mybug67 Huntington Beach, CA

Up in Sacramento they just want to rise more taxes, but if they do alot of them will be voted out.And some of them are saying " IT OVER " about spending. We will see!! Judgement day is coming to California.

Posted by mybug67 on 06/09/09
Last updated 06/09/09

Last weekend June 6th and 7th was the Orange County gun show at the OC Fair Grounds. C4L had a table there at the show. It was alot of fun and meet some really nice people. I also want to thank some people who came out and helped with the table: Patricia and her husband and friend, Virgina and Husband, Tom, Todd, Adam, Rogar, David, Tildon and his bother, Oscar, and of course Frank.

We had petitions of HR 1207 and also had Nancy Pelosi petitions. Here in Orange County we only have 2 congressmen not co-sponsored HR 1207 they are Loretta Sanchez CA-47 (D) and Gary Miller CA-42 (R). On the table we had some fliers on California gun legislation AB 962 and SB 585 real bad bills for gun owners. We also had info on SB 60 the REAL ID ACT of 2005 now in the Assembly ready for a vote!  So we had a real good time getting people to sign the petition for HR 1207 over 100 petition signed and for Nancy Pelosi petitions well got about 40 signed. We also gave out C4L info. Wow gun owners really don't like Pelosi "I wonder why"  

If there's a gun show in your area or a coin show, go get a table and get some new people. Like we always say " PEOPLE LIKE FREEDOM "

Thanks

Pete

Posted 06/10/09 Dan Prentice Spring Hill, FL

Hey Pete we had the same reponse from ex military to civilian hunters and collectors at the Hernando county fairground in regards to ron paul message before the primary Election Felicitations Dan

Posted 06/10/09 Elysiumboy Billericay, United Kingdom

You guys are doing a grand job and it's certainly a good way to learn how to get their attention!

Posted by mybug67 on 05/31/09
Last updated 05/31/09

SB 60 bill passed out of the State Senate Approiations Committee 7 yes and 5 no and one did not vote and is on it's way to the full California State Senate for a vote maybe this coming week! Call State Senator Steinberg and let then know you say " NO ON SB 60 " Steinberg is the State Senate Pro Tem in Sacramento.

If passed SB 60 is going to put into place the REAL ID ACT of 2005 or the NATIONAL ID CARD! The DMV said it's going to cost California over 500 million dollars and the Feds are not putting up the bill, also have to hire 600 more state workers! " LIKE WE NEED MORE STATE WORKERS "

Call State Senator Darrell Steinberg office (916) 651-4006 and MELT his switch board with calls!

It's time for C4L in California to step up to the plate. I am talking about you Local Coordinators you District Coordinators and State Coordinators too.We must rally the troops around this and for FREEDOM!! It's nice to get HR 1207 with all the cosponsors onboard, but we have to take care of are backyard too!! More info on SB 60 www.leginfo.ca.gov

Thanks

Posted 05/31/09 libertyspirit Modesto, CA

Thanks for the heads up and the easy to access phone number.

Posted 05/31/09 JChristopherStearns Chesapeake, VA

Blow up those phones in Sacramento. Good luck guys.

Posted 06/01/09 libertyspirit Modesto, CA

I quickly made the phone call and informed several of my friends. Shouldn't we be calling our state senators office as well?

Posted 06/01/09 Kimberlee Huntington Beach, CA

I made the call and posted it on my facebook and also emailed several of my friends. Keep the momentum!

Posted 06/01/09 mybug67 Huntington Beach, CA

Yes also call your State senator too!!

Posted by mybug67 on 05/10/09
Last updated 05/10/09

 Yes it's back TAX REVOLT 2 " HEADS ON A STICK "  John and Ken from KFI 640am are having a Tax Revolt Rally in Corona Ca. on May16th at Toms Farms 23900 Temescal Canyon Rd. Corona,Ca, 92883. From 4 to 7 pm. www.kfi640.com/  The last Tax Revolt on march 7th drew over 15,000 people in Fullerton Ca. We are going to have a C4L table there! Also there's a group there to recall Assemblymen Anthony Adams. www.tomsfarms.com 

In liberty

Posted 05/15/09 jimsmills Newport Beach, CA

I just joined this forum. I live in Newport Beach and I am a marketing professonal with about 25 years of experience. This is certainly the time to work to bring our country back to some sanity. By the way I have been involved with about 15 political campaigns, but mostly work in the business sector. Jim

Posted by mybug67 on 03/19/09
Last updated 05/18/09

Well IIt's back SB60 in Sacramento the REAL ID ACT of 2005. State Senator Cedillo from the 22nd district in Los Angeles, has again brought back SB60. This is the national ID card. Arnold vetoed the bill last time, not because it would violate the 4th amendment. If passed your drivers licenses will have a micochip in it!! It is going to cost alot of money that the state does not have. The DMV said The Real ID is going to cost about 500 million to put into place! So call your state senator and assemblyman and tell them NO to SB60!!! This has to stop NOW!! www.legislature.ca.gov/

Posted 03/23/09 shooter348 Buffalo, WY

I hope all REAL ID legislation gets voted down but if it doesn't why don't we protest by not renewing our driver's licenses?

Posted 03/30/09 evought Stotts City, MO

That's a good question and it might be one of the ways to go about it. Then, when they deny access to government services or do not let you in the courthouse without it, sue the state under Equal Protection--- the state cannot choose to ignore you because you do not wish to go through an invasive and unnecessary procedure. They can try, but they might find it more trouble than it is worth if a lot of people feel that way. The cost of the IDs may just be one of the ways to approach that. It would be a hard sell for the state to say "You cannot have access to the government unless you pay $50." There are quite a few people to whom that cost is substantial hardship and that is why courts have consistently rejected requirements that voters present a driver's license at the poll (it represents a "poll tax"). In Missouri, the anti-Real-ID bill has been derailed by someone adding an amendment saying that the government give individuals a choice of which type of ID they want (and can probably spin their explanations of the difference in whatever way they wish). This would be a start, and probably many people who do not object morally would object to the new price tag, but it would not solve the problem at the federal level. At least it only invades the privacy of the ones who openly choose it (as long as only the Real-ID people are entered into the national database).

Posted 04/01/09 judyinwash Vancouver, WA

In Washington state they have made it optional and you get a $5 discount for the "enhanced" version of the driver's license. I'll pay the extra $5 for the old driver's license, thank you!

Posted 04/01/09 mjberry1975 Kalispell, MT

What would compliance with the act due to Cali's already bankrupt budget?

Posted 04/08/09 rcadby Etowah, TN

Keep up the great work! Our only hope is for each and every one of us to multiply our voices against every attempt to destroy our liberties. Thanks to all.

Posted 04/10/09 BruceLayne Lexington, KY

There are enough states that HAVE stood on principle and said outright that they won't implement REAL ID that it's not happening as the international database that was planned. Many of the state legislators went so far as to pass a law specifically outlawing REAL ID or anything like it. The DHS has lost this battle, but they just keep trying. They're now pushing Enhanced Driver's Licenses, which is just another pathway to REAL ID. Tyranny by any other name, eh? Many states already have REAL ID compliant driver's licenses. The digital photos are sufficiently detailed to be used for computerized facial recognition. I won't divulge all of the anti-REAL ID technology that I used at my last driver's license renewal, but when I handed over my old driver's license the DMV clerk looked at it, looked at me, then looked at the driver's license again and said, "This doesn't look anything like you!" It's the first time I've almost wanted to kiss a bureaucrat from the DMV. I thought, "I hope the computer thinks that doesn't look anything like me." That's the real point. A police officer should be able to look at the license and know it's me (even if I look like an ax murdering drifter in my driver's license photo), but I don't want a computer scanning a crowd and knowing who I am. As soon as the I had my new driver's license, I went back to looking like me. My friends and family think my driver's license is hilarious. Many think of it as just a silly prank, but most understand why I did it and the minor monkey wrenching political protest that it represents. Sadly, it seems inevitable that as soon as the technology is available, it will be used to increase tyranny. Remember that IBM used early punch card technology to allow Nazis to track Jews onto the boxcars, into forced labor camps and into the ovens.

Posted 05/02/09 Elysiumboy Billericay, United Kingdom

It will be the simplest things that will hurt the most. Forget your wallet at the wrong time and it will not matter what your reasons were, they'll fine you! If they have to force it through why can't they link it to our banks accounts or something. At least that way we give the information to someone who already has most of it (I will not say trust because that isn't true. I'm almost scared of them) and we may even be able to keep it in civilian hands. This is the start of a new era for all the wrong reasons in my eyes.