Posted by js3405 on 10/04/09

NO FRIEND OF FREEDOM

Thomas E. Woods, Jr. is senior fellow in American history at the Ludwig von Mises Institute. He is co-editor (with Murray Polner) of We Who Dared to Say No to War: American Antiwar Writing from 1812 to Now and co-author, most recently, of Who Killed the Constitution? The Fate of American Liberty from World War I to George W. Bush. His other books include Sacred Then and Sacred Now: The Return of the Old Latin Mass, 33 Questions About American History You’re Not Supposed to Ask. How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization (get a free chapter here), The Church and the Market: A Catholic Defense of the Free Economy (first-place winner in the 2006 Templeton Enterprise Awards), and the New York Times bestseller The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History. He graduated from Harvard.

As you can see he is wealthy, Harvard educated and definitely has a Catholic agenda.

I graduated high school with a 4.0, was active in FBLA and BETA club went to state competition in business law and was 4 sport athlete member of the Lettermens Club raised by military men.  I went to college and studied education and biology and am self educated in the fields of history, sociology, psychology and criminal justice just to name a few. I believe in the Constitution and the Ron Paul Peaceful Revolution of Love and Uniting and Educating the people to the unconstitutional things that are happening and am a follower of the teachings of Jesus Christ. I, like most Americans, am just barely able to pay my bills at the moment and can't afford to attend a rally in St Louis let alone fly all over the country telling people what I think about certain things.

Now back to the subject of Mr. Woods.

I had posted a comment on one of his blogs entitled how to protest the G20 the right way where he calls everyone outside protesting socialists and leftist liberals.

Here is exactly what his blog says--

This week left-liberal and socialist opponents of globalization will protest the G-20 meeting in Pittsburgh. But you don't have to be a left-liberal or a socialist to oppose the G-20's agenda. Campaign for Liberty is co-sponsoring an event tomorrow night at Pittsburgh's Soldiers and Sailors Hall at which G. Edward Griffin and I will be speaking. Hope to see you there.

This was his idea of how to protest the G20?  Come listen to him speak, maybe buy his book  and have some wine and cheese while people outside are getting beaten, gassed, shot with rubber bullets, chased and arrested for standing up for their rights of freedom of speech and assembly. Regardless of what they are protesting they have the right to protest.

and this is what I had to say as a comment on his blog

The campaign for liberty is not about left or right mr right wing posing as a friend of liberty. Maybe you should reread the mission statement and stop using the power of the campaign for liberty to further your agenda and come together as one voice for freedom. I sincerely hope that you dont think the campaign for liberty is for republicans only because it is not is is for americans. I will be watching you and will make sure to let everyone know where you stand. You sir are an example of what is wrong in this country.

Now while I disagree with his divisive statements that he posted in the headline I also disagree with his 100 dollar a seat VIP wine and cheese meeting.

This was the other part of his post that I disagreed with

VIP Premium Seating: $100
Premium seats offer the best view of the stage and access to our VIP wine and cheese event where you get to rub elbows with our speakers. These seats are extremely limited so book quickly!

This is his reply that he emailed me--

So someone who writes a New York Times bestselling book blaming the Fed for the economic crisis is part of the problem? Someone hand-picked by Ron Paul to speak at the Rally for the Republic and the Campaign for Liberty events? Part of the problem? Take it up with Ron Paul.

Everything I said in that message is 100% correct. I defy you to show me otherwise. The people protesting the G-20 ARE ON THE LEFT. Duh. My argument is that you do not have to agree with them in order to question the G-20. ALL OF THIS IS TRUE!

For heaven's sake, I wrote a book WITH A LEFTIST on how left and right can come together to fight against war. Why don't you bother to look into things before condemning someone you know absolutely nothing about?

http://www.TomWoods.com

Now after visiting his self promoting website My interpretation of his email is- How dare you disagree with someone as rich, powerful and influential as Thomas Woods bestselling Author and Harvard man who gets paid to go around and voice my opinion on things. 

I replied in an email to him

This week left-liberal and socialist opponents of globalization will protest the G-20 meeting in Pittsburgh. But you don't have to be a left-liberal or a socialist to oppose the G-20's agenda. ---- I am sorry but you were the person who wrote this. You are using divisive words and are furthering the division of this country by using them. I am glad that you say we should all come together but have never seen you post anything about this subject on here. You were wrong about it only being socialists and liberals protesting and you are the one who should look into the people who were there standing up for our rights before you start your labeling and name calling like a elementary school kid. Hope you had fun at your 100 dollar a plate wine tasting event while others were getting arrested and tear gassed and sonic weapons used on them for standing up for your rights.

I would be glad to take it up with ron paul and had already sent him a message before i sent you one. I have never heard him say or read anything he has written that is divisive in nature.

Oh, and I hope YOU read the reply to your inane comment.

I would post this but he deleted it.

His reply via email

The Campaign for Liberty endorsed the event in question, which was put on by grassroots and was not a $100 a plate thing, as you sneeringly suggest, out of pure ignorance -- NOW who's being "divisive"?

At this point I would like to insert this.

VIP Premium Seating: $100
Premium seats offer the best view of the stage and access to our VIP wine and cheese event where you get to rub elbows with our speakers. These seats are extremely limited so book quickly!

Now back to his reply

Did you notice that absolutely no one came to your defense? They all think your inane comment is crazy. Do you have any idea the work I put in for this cause? Bothered to look at my website and bio? And you think I'm part of the problem? How twisted can you be?

On the contrary, do you note C4L members' support for my work? Watch the response to my speeches on YouTube at C4L events. Are they all deluded, missing out on the great truth that only you possess? Give me a break, you creep.

There were only 4 comments at the time and My interpretation "How dare you disagree with me do you know who I am? I have power and money and influence"

Now at this point I looked at ALL his past blogs and the majority of them are self promoting while talking about the ecomony mostly. His self promotion of his books reminds me of that good ole phrase " we can't let a good crisis go to waste."

I also noticed that only a handful of people even commented on his blogs and only one came to his defense regarding my comment and this is what it said

you need to get your facts straight before you go on the attack.

#1: The G20 summit protestors are generally left-liberal. Left-liberal means they favor bigger government, this is a far cry from Classical liberal. There's also tons of socialists at G-Insert Number summits, members of Rage Against the Machine as well as communists attend en masse.

#2: The socialists and bigger government folks are completely incompatable with our cause which YOU would know if you read the mission statement. We can't come together with them as "one voice for freedom" when their philosophy is fundamentaly anti-liberty. They don't trust freedom, which is why they're there protesting economic freedom (capatalism) as if the G20 is somehow captalist. I also think there's a lot of globalist astroturf NGO's there which promote a progressive, anti-human, anti-liberty agenda as discussed in the John Birch Society movie on the United Nations. http://masslpa.org/content/video-un-deception . According to a correct political paradigm we are a rightwing group as we favor less government and People's Law (or even anarcho-capatalism as some do).

#3: Tom Woods is an extremely important part of C4L, he attends nearly every Conference and holds other C4L related events - I doubt you could do as much for the liberty movement as he does or has, especially since you're the one coming here trying ruin our "one voice for freedom" by making stupid statements and criticizing someone.

My interpretation "How dare you disagree with such a rich, powerful and influential person".

Just for the record rage against the machine attended the Rally for the Republic and even performed live. As far as the people who protested the G20 goes they were protesting against big world government and the corporate takeover of our country and the world.

I then sent Mr Woods this message thinking maybe he had thought I was attacking him and not his position he was taking in his statements.

It is interesting that you are so upset with the fact that I am upset with you for using divisive language in one particular instance on one particular article and have not attacked you personally. I was trying to explain that I feel using that type of language is not good for the freedom movement. I am not playing a popularity game and am not trying to get anyone to take my side. I have not posted anything about our conversation anywhere else but here and feel that disagreeing on certain things is healthy not creepy as you so eloquently put it. I can see that you have no intention of looking at this from my perspective so I digress and please keep up all the good work and enjoy your wine and cheese.

At this point I was willing to pretty much end this debate.

However since he has deleted my comments and blocked me from commenting on his blogs and has blocked all form of debate I believe that he is censoring me simply for disagreeing and I have no choice but to expose him for the freedom hating American that he is.  He has exposed himself as part of and no better than the system we are trying to replace.

My Power comes from freedom given to me in the Bill of Rights.

As far as Money goes--I don't need alot of money to try and change things I have a computer, the Internet, two feet, and a voice.

And as for Influence -- I have Hundreds of thousands of friends who think the way I do in my network online, here locally, nationally, and globally and we are influencing alot of people daily.  I also encourage all of you to speak up and speak out against people who would stomp on any of these rights or would try to divide this country when we are trying to unite it.

NonCompliance to the system ie End the Fed, Unity and Love for one another are the only solution to the problems we are facing and the Campaign for Liberty and the Ron Paul rEVOLution are a big step in uniting and educating people to this idea but only if we stop people from hijacking it and using it for personal gain and certain political and religious agendas.

I joined with Ron Paul and the C4L to fight for the freedom guaranteed to us by our Constitution and to stand up against the rich and powerful people who want to control everything.

I will stand up and speak out against all those who oppose freedom, liberty and Justice for all so help me god.  And in my opinion Mr.Woods is a prime example of those who oppose these things.

Unlike Mr woods, I will not block him from commenting on this post and welcome his rebuttal.