Posted by bobjones68 on 11/06/09
Last updated 11/06/09

OK -- this article has me creeped out. First, Lake in the Hills is only a short 30-45 minute drive from where I live - so this one hits close to home. Secondly, a week ago there was an outbreak of some bug in Ukraine that in 1 week has gone from ~100,000 cases to ~800,000 cases, with many people exhibiting symptoms of pheumonic plague or hemmoraghic pheumonia - drowning to death from their own fluids. Next, we have Chicago with one of (if not THE) largest concentrations of Ukrainians in the US. Because of that large community and the frequent/constant travel from UA to Chicago, I would expect we would be next on the list to get hit with this new bug. But having a mock drill so soon after the outbreak of the bug sounds fishy to me. It makes me ask: "What do the powers that be know that isn't being reported? And how will that information impact me and my family?"  To me, with my suspicious mind, this sounds too pat, like the outbreak was planned from the beginning.  There are just too many coincedences in the timings here.

Police prepare drill for plague at school
By DAVID FITZGERALD

LAKE IN THE HILLS - Citizens infected with a fictitious pneumonic plague will line up outside Lincoln Prairie Elementary School on Saturday to help test the site as a medication dispensary in case of an emergency.

The Lake in the Hills Police Department is carrying out the test as part of a grant from the McHenry County Department of Health for its emergency health plan. In case of a biological terrorist attack or widespread disease outbreak, the site would be able get medicine to the community, Lake in the Hills Chief of Patrol Services David Brey said.

"This is just a functional test of the site," he said.

The event will use volunteers pretending to have been stricken by the plague to help test the flow of the site, from initial triage through receiving proof of being medicated.

"We picked the plague on purpose so it would have nothing to do with the swine flu," Brey said.

The test will start at 9 a.m. Saturday at Lincoln Prairie, 500 Harvest Gate, across from Lake in the Hills Village Hall.

Posted 11/06/09 libertyforever Island Lake, IL

yup, same article I posted. I can't remember what thread we were writing on, can you help me find it? Thanks.

Posted 11/06/09 bobjones68 Schaumburg, IL

liberty .. go to your dashboard andn check your comments.....

Posted 11/06/09 bobjones68 Schaumburg, IL

or perhaps you are referring to http://www.infowars.com/police-prepare-drill-for-plague-at-school/ ?

Posted 11/07/09 libertyforever Island Lake, IL

thanks, Bob..in the comments. Didn't even know how to do that. Thanks.

Posted 11/07/09 libertyspirit Modesto, CA

That is scary. Do you have some herbal remedies and/or antibiotics on hand? Perhaps a naturopath could recommend a preventative/protective type remedy.

Posted 11/07/09 bobjones68 Schaumburg, IL

Libertyspirit, I have been taking between 1500-2000 i.u of Vitamin D and C to stimulate my natural immune system, which should ward off any of these nasty bugs, or keep the illness down to a minimum.

Posted 11/07/09 rightsman Las Vegas,, NV

BobJones Just as some added information. I once had a bleeding ulcer. The doctors were giving me some kind of drug that made me want to get up and run. I was shaking, it was bad stuff. I insisted on taking vitamin k. It is a natural blood coagulant. The internal bleeding stopped. I am not a doctor, and I am not giving medical advice. This information is for entertainment purposes only. Thank you, Robert Walker

Posted by bobjones68 on 11/02/09

Strange set of coincedences here.....

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Has Baxter International released a biological weapon?

Posted By admin On November 1, 2009

David Rothscum Reports
November 1, 2009

Evidence appears to suggest that Baxter International is responsible for a new deadly outbreak of viral pneumonia in Ukraine.

In February of 2009 Bloomberg reported that Baxter "accidentally" send vaccine material containing both live Avian bird flu and seasonal influenza to multiple laboratories worldwide. A laboratory decided to test the vaccine on it's ferrets, but the ferrets all unexpectedly died. It must be noted that Baxter has made a "mistake" like this before. Blood products produced by Baxter once containd HIV. Thousands of haemophiliacs died due to this, and many went on to infect their spouses.

Later in the year, a bizarre story emerged on the internet. The Huffington Post reported on a a man named Joseph Moshe who was arrested after a hours long standoff with the police because he had supposedly made threats against the White House. The man was able to withstand multiple rounds of tear gas.

However, the internet community was very skeptical of the true reasons behidn this man's arrest. Comments on the Huffington Post website immediately began pouring in about an unreported side to this story, namely that Joseph Moshe was a Mossad Agent specialized in biological warfare who called into a radio show to warn people about a biological weapn that was being made by Baxter international that would be spread through vaccine and would cause a plague upon it's release.

Although anyone can make a doomsday claim and we should never believe anyone (and it must be said that the Truth movement handled this well, the message was spread without being proclaimed as gospel) the amazing part about Moshe's claim was the location where Moshe said the biological weapon was being produced.

Moshe claimed that Baxter's laboratory in the Ukraine out of all places was creating this biological weapon. All of this came out in the beginning of August, which is more than 2 months before the situation that is currently unfolding. For Moshe to correctly name the country where a new epidemic would be unleashed, requires either inside information, or an incredible coincidence as anyone with a basic knowledge of statistics can confirm for himself.

Let us assume for a moment that every person on our planet has an equal chance of giving rise to a new lethal epidemic due to a virus that mutates as it spreads through his body. The Ukraine has 46 million inhabitants. The current estimated global population is about 6.7 billion. This means that if a new epidemic were to arise, the chance of this epidemic starting in the Ukraine would be 0.69%. However, it appears that this virus is a form of flu. This makes the odds of being right when guessing that a deadly flu is going to break out in the Ukraine even smaller. The reason for this is that back in early August the vast majority of influenza infections were found in different countries than the Ukraine. In fact, on 30 Oktober, Earthtimes reported that Ukraine had officially reported only two cases of swine flu, and no deaths, until last Friday. This deadly epidemic appears to have arrived out of nowhere in the Ukraine.

Moshe's biomed profile appears to confirm his position as a microbiologist. Furthermore, this page with Baxter's contact information for it's Ukraine office confirms that Baxter has a presence in the Ukraine.

It must also be noted that massive numbers of microbiologists have been dying bizarre deaths. This case of what appears to be a brave man who sacrificed it all to bring us this message may explain why so many microbiologists have been murdered. The fact that this man managed to predict an outbreak of highly lethal influenza in a place where we would least expect it, 2 months before it a actually occured, lends credence to his claim that Baxter International is responsible for the outbreak and shows that top microbiologists can pose a problem to the people responsible for this ongoing disaster.

This is a developing story, expect to see possible updates on David Rothscum Reports as more information on what is happening in Ukraine becomes available.

Update 1: For the purpose of keeping information from disappearing, I am going to mirror most information I can find on here.

Comments on the Huffington post website on an article about Moshe's arrest documenting his claim that the Influenza virus in a vaccine manufactured by Baxter in Ukraine replicates RNA from the 1918 flu and is meant as a bioweapon:

Update 2: The Ukrainian government wants to impose travel restrictions on people across the nation to stop the virus from spreading.

Update 3: According to the Huffington post comments I cited above, Dr. Moshe claimed that the virus used replicated RNA of the 1918 Spanish flu. Symptoms of the 1919 Flu include victims being drenched in blood:

American were familiar with the flu; it sent you to bed, made you miserable for 3 or 4 days with fever, muscle aches, and congestion, then left you shaky for about a week. It made millions sick, yet killed only the oldest, youngest, and most feeble.

The 1918 influenza was not the flu Americans were familiar with. It was a horror that turned victims bluish-black then drowned them with their own body fluids. the death toll was highest in the ages 15 to 40, those in the peak of health. The victims would be fine one minute and the next incapacitated, fever-racked, and delirious. Temperatures rose to 104-106 degrees, skin turned blue, purple, or deep brown from lack of oxygen. Massive pneumonia attacked the lungs, filling them with fluid; blood gushed from the nose. Death was quick, savage, and terrifying.

Compare this to reports that are coming out from Ukraine:

Five persons have died from the flue in Lviv, four men and one woman, says emergency hospital chief doctor Myron Borysevych.

Two of the dead patients were in the 22-35 age group, with 2 others over 60. He diagnosed the disease as viral pneumonia.

(...)

Viral tests can last from one to two weeks. They are complicated and not done in Lviv. The course of the disease was very quick. The symptoms included very high temperature and short-wind cough.

(...)

All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 - 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.

Posted 11/02/09 fadestyle Walnut Bottom, PA

yeah, i read about this. very interesting. remember vitamin d3, vitamin c, and always keep oil of oregano on hand and your bullet proof from any flu.

Posted 11/02/09 bobjones68 Schaumburg, IL

or at least bullet resistant

Posted 11/03/09 libertyspirit Modesto, CA

What's the oil of oregano for?

Posted 11/05/09 rightsman Las Vegas,, NV

Bob Jones and Fadestyle, Thank you for the necessary information we need to protect ourselves. You two men are highly appreciated. Robert Walker

Posted by bobjones68 on 10/31/09

WND ON CAPITOL HILL
Ron Paul: Audit Fed 'gutted' in committee
Bank-connected congressman blamed for undermining bill
Posted: October 31, 2009
6:15 pm Eastern

By Drew Zahn
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, has complained that the bill he sponsored calling for an audit of the Federal Reserve has been "gutted" by congressional committee, pointing specifically to a legislator whose campaign coffers have been boosted by the banking industry.

As WND reported, Paul sponsored H.R. 1207, a bill requiring the Federal Reserve - an organization that's independent from the U.S. government but nonetheless oversees U.S. monetary policy - be opened to oversight by Congress. The plan compiled over 300 co-sponsors in the House before being sent to committee.

But in a telephone interview with a Bloomberg reporter, Paul said the teeth have been ripped out of the bill.

"There's nothing left; it's been gutted," Paul said. "This is not a partisan issue. People all over the country want to know what the Fed is up to, and this legislation was supposed to help them do that."

Paul told Bloomberg the bill has been stripped of provisions that closed loopholes protecting the Fed, including exemption from audits of transactions with foreign central banks and protected communications between the Board, reserve banks and staff.

Paul blamed the chairman of the House Financial Service Committee's panel on domestic monetary policy, Rep. Mel Watt, D-N.C., for eliminating "just about everything" in preparation for the bill's consideration on the floor of the House.

Watt, is has also been revealed, has significant connections to the banking industry.

It its report, Bloomberg mentioned that Watt's congressional district includes Charlotte, headquarters of Bank of America Corp., the biggest U.S. lender.

Further investigation through OpenSecrets.org reveals that the largest share of Watt's campaign contributions in the 2008 election cycle came from the finance, insurance and real estate industries.

In fact, of $609,072 given to Watt, $217,109 - or 35.6 percent - came from the money sector, including over $187,000 - or nearly 31 percent of his total contributions - from political action committees within the finance, insurance and real estate industry. The next highest industry supporting Watt was labor, which contributed only 14 percent of his total war chest.

Furthermore, the four largest contributors to Watt's cause were Bank of America, Wachovia Corp., American Express and the American Bankers Association.

Keith Kelly, a spokesman for Watt, declined to comment and told Bloomberg Watt wasn't immediately available for an interview.

Paul, however, told Bloomberg he intends to introduce an amendment that would restore the bill's legislation to its original language when it comes to the House floor for a vote.

Paul long has been a critic of the secrecy of the Federal Reserve.

"Throughout its nearly 100-year history, the Federal Reserve has presided over the near-complete destruction of the United States dollar," he said earlier. "Since 1913, the dollar has lost over 95 percent of its purchasing power, aided and abetted by the Federal Reserve's loose monetary policy."

You've never needed to understand money like you need to understand it now! "Web of Debt: The Shocking Truth About Our Money System and How We Can Break Free" unravels the deception of the Federal Reserve and presents a crystal clear picture of the financial abyss towards which we are heading.

"Since its inception, the Federal Reserve has always operated in the shadows, without sufficient scrutiny or oversight of its operations," Paul said when the plan to audit the Fed was introduced. "While the conventional excuse is that this is intended to reduce the Fed's susceptibility to political pressures, the reality is that the Fed acts as a foil for the government. Whenever you question the Fed about the strength of the dollar, they will refer you to the Treasury, and vice versa. The Federal Reserve has, on the one hand, many of the privileges of government agencies, while retaining benefits of private organizations, such as being insulated from Freedom of Information Act requests."

Paul has warned, "The Federal Reserve can enter into agreements with foreign central banks and foreign governments, and the GAO is prohibited from auditing or even seeing these agreements. Why should a government-established agency, whose police force has federal law enforcement powers, and whose notes have legal tender status in this country, be allowed to enter into agreements with foreign powers and foreign banking institutions with no oversight? Particularly when hundreds of billions of dollars of currency swaps have been announced and implemented, the Fed's negotiations with the European Central Bank, the Bank of International Settlements, and other institutions should face increased scrutiny, most especially because of their significant effect on foreign policy. If the State Department were able to do this, it would be characterized as a rogue agency and brought to heel, and if a private individual did this he might face prosecution under the Logan Act, yet the Fed avoids both fates."

WND previously reported that the Fed, despite being ordered to disclose to whom it awarded some $2 trillion in discount "stimulus" loans, continues its fight for secrecy.

Posted 11/01/09 Fu Manchu Belleville, MI

Sadly, I'm not surprised by this at all. We all know what needs to happen in this country, but we're all to scared to say it.

Posted 11/01/09 bobjones68 Schaumburg, IL

And many of us (myself included) are too scared to START it...

Posted 11/01/09 fadestyle Walnut Bottom, PA

gloves, bucket ...now where to get the water?

Posted 11/02/09 bobjones68 Schaumburg, IL

fade .. hose, spigot, check .. now who's turning the spigot on?

Posted 11/02/09 bobjones68 Schaumburg, IL

dang .. looks like i forgot to pay the water bill ..... :-)

Posted by bobjones68 on 10/31/09
Last updated 10/31/09

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Be Prepared for the Worst

Ron Paul, 10.29.09, 09:20 AM EDT
Forbes Magazine dated November 16, 2009

The large-scale government intervention in the economy is going to end badly.

Any number of pundits claim that we have now passed the worst of the recession. Green shoots of recovery are supposedly popping up all around the country, and the economy is expected to resume growing soon at an annual rate of 3% to 4%. Many of these are the same people who insisted that the economy would continue growing last year, even while it was clear that we were already in the beginning stages of a recession.

A false recovery is under way. I am reminded of the outlook in 1930, when the experts were certain that the worst of the Depression was over and that recovery was just around the corner. The economy and stock market seemed to be recovering, and there was optimism that the recession, like many of those before it, would be over in a year or less. Instead, the interventionist policies of Hoover and Roosevelt caused the Depression to worsen, and the Dow Jones industrial average did not recover to 1929 levels until 1954. I fear that our stimulus and bailout programs have already done too much to prevent the economy from recovering in a natural manner and will result in yet another asset bubble.

Anytime the central bank intervenes to pump trillions of dollars into the financial system, a bubble is created that must eventually deflate. We have seen the results of Alan Greenspan's excessively low interest rates: the housing bubble, the explosion of subprime loans and the subsequent collapse of the bubble, which took down numerous financial institutions. Rather than allow the market to correct itself and clear away the worst excesses of the boom period, the Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury colluded to put taxpayers on the hook for trillions of dollars. Those banks and financial institutions that took on the largest risks and performed worst were rewarded with billions in taxpayer dollars, allowing them to survive and compete with their better-managed peers.

This is nothing less than the creation of another bubble. By attempting to cushion the economy from the worst shocks of the housing bubble's collapse, the Federal Reserve has ensured that the ultimate correction of its flawed economic policies will be more severe than it otherwise would have been. Even with the massive interventions, unemployment is near 10% and likely to increase, foreigners are cutting back on purchases of Treasury debt and the Federal Reserve's balance sheet remains bloated at an unprecedented $2 trillion. Can anyone realistically argue that a few small upticks in a handful of economic indicators are a sign that the recession is over?

What is more likely happening is a repeat of the Great Depression. We might have up to a year or so of an economy growing just slightly above stagnation, followed by a drop in growth worse than anything we have seen in the past two years. As the housing market fails to return to any sense of normalcy, commercial real estate begins to collapse and manufacturers produce goods that cannot be purchased by debt-strapped consumers, the economy will falter. That will go on until we come to our senses and end this wasteful government spending.

Government intervention cannot lead to economic growth. Where does the money come from for Tarp (Treasury's program to buy bad bank paper), the stimulus handouts and the cash for clunkers? It can come only from taxpayers, from sales of Treasury debt or through the printing of new money. Paying for these programs out of tax revenues is pure redistribution; it takes money out of one person's pocket and gives it to someone else without creating any new wealth. Besides, tax revenues have fallen drastically as unemployment has risen, yet government spending continues to increase. As for Treasury debt, the Chinese and other foreign investors are more and more reluctant to buy it, denominated as it is in depreciating dollars.

The only remaining option is to have the Fed create new money out of thin air. This is inflation. Higher prices lead to a devalued dollar and a lower standard of living for Americans. The Fed has already overseen a 95% loss in the dollar's purchasing power since 1913. If we do not stop this profligate spending soon, we risk hyperinflation and seeing a 95% devaluation every year.

Ron Paul is a Republican congressman from Texas.

Posted 10/31/09 TruthSaga San Jose, CA

It's time to get active!

Posted 10/31/09 bobjones68 Schaumburg, IL

Some of us have been for a very long time... See my latest on the status of HR1207....

Posted 11/01/09 moondog 67 2000 Cheboygan, MI

I wish I seen more of the people of the United States of America willing to wrap their heads around the very thought of Impeaching this administration, charging them with treason but maybe not the old penalty inwhich they were hung. I mean come on, we were going to impeach a man for cheatting on his wife but we wont dare think of impeachment of an administration when they try to undo all of what the founding fathers of America have done? Where am I? In some kind of weird dream of sorts?

Posted by bobjones68 on 10/26/09
Last updated 10/26/09

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Obama's H1N1 national emergency declaration could invoke FEMA response to pandemic

Mike Adams
Natural News
October 26, 2009

President Obama's declaration of a national pandemic emergency is "no cause for alarm," reported the mainstream media throughout the weekend. The declaration is nothing more than a "precaution," they say. "It's really more a continuation of our preparedness steps," said Anne Schuchat, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, in a USA Today story.

But at the same time, H1N1 isn't causing large-scale sickness. As USA Today reported, an expert on infectious disease, P.J. Brennan (the chief medical officer for the Penn Health System at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia) said, "The public ought to take some solace, some relief in this. It's not a suggestion that things have deteriorated in any way. In no way is the virus more severe or more difficult to manage."

So let me get this straight. The H1N1 virus remains mild. The CDC reports that swine flu infections already peaked out in mid-October. There have been no new developments in swine flu that would be cause for alarm and no reason to suspect huge numbers of sick people flooding into the hospitals. And yet, for some reason, the Obama administration has declared a national pandemic emergency specifically for the purpose of speeding the ability of hospitals to process large masses of sick people through emergency medical triage tents?

What are these people not telling us?

Something doesn't add up here. Why would the U.S. government need to declare a national emergency to enable hospitals to handle a flood of sick people when there is no flood of sick people (and the pandemic seems to be fizzling out)?

This is more like the kind of preparation you might expect in advance of a biological terrorism attack, not for a flu that appears no more dangerous than the seasonal sniffles.

The National Emergencies Act and FEMA

Meanwhile, the media ignores the rest of the story about what dangerous powers a declaration of a national emergency puts into play. As reported here on NaturalNews, this declaration effectively ends many civil liberties in America and, at least on paper, puts the U.S. government in the position of having the legal authority to force vaccinations on the entire population at gunpoint (if they wanted to).

The National Emergencies Act passed in 1976 has some peculiar realities attached to it. In particular, as Wikipedia reports:

A federal emergency declaration allows the United States Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to exercise its power to deal with emergency situations ... Typically, a state of emergency empowers the executive to name coordinating officials to deal with the emergency and to override normal administrative processes regarding the passage of administrative rules.

Got that yet? By declaring a national emergency, Obama invokes a set of laws that not only override important sections of the U.S. Constitution, but that also activate FEMA to take charge of "responding" to the emergency.

Now we know why they need all those emergency medical tent camps near the hospitals. FEMA's in charge! And if FEMA handles the swine flu pandemic in the same way the agency handled the Hurricane Katrina disaster, we may indeed need all those emergency triage tents after all.

Those of you who have been following the ongoing march to destroy the freedoms of the American People already know about FEMA camps. These aren't Boy Scout field trip camps; they're detention centers designed to hold large numbers of people for "emergency" purposes. Many theories abound on what these FEMA camps might be used for (www.campFEMA.com) (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index....).

They could conceivably be used to quarantine people who are infected with a dangerous pandemic virus. On the other hand, they might also be used to isolated and detain people who refuse to be vaccinated against any declared pandemic. Under the National Emergencies Act and related U.S. law, FEMA would have two years of near-total control over the civilian population, during which people could be subjected to forced vaccinations, mandatory searches of their homes, gunpoint detainment and "involuntary transportation" to a FEMA detainment facility, and so on.

I'm not saying they're going to do all this, but they could if they wanted to!

And that's not freedom. Real freedom means you have the guaranteed right to be safe from being detained, or arrested without cause, or injected with a government-mandated chemical. Under a declaration of a national emergency, your "freedom" is at the whim of those who maintain police state powers over you. You're only "free" if they decide to refrain from exercising the power they have over you. It's the same kind of freedom you might get as a peasant in some Medieval kingdom where the king says, "You're free to go."

Now, some of these freedom-restricting actions might conceivably be justifiable if a truly dangerous pandemic virus were sweeping through the population killing millions, causing huge disruptions in the national infrastructure and threatening the nation with a partial or total shutdown of essential services. But that is not happening here. H1N1 is a mild virus that rates astonishingly low on the severity scale. If H1N1 were a hurricane, it would be little more than a "tropical depression." It is not a category five hurricane, nor a phase six pandemic. Virtually everyone who is exposed to H1N1 generates their own antibodies and cures themselves naturally. According to hospital reports, those who have died from the H1N1 virus are almost exclusively people who were already suffering from preexisting conditions that compromised their health such as asthma or extreme obesity.

By any measure, H1N1 as currently configured appears to present no extraordinary threat to the health of the population. So once again, we must ask: Why declare a national emergency and initiate a FEMA response to something that's not really an emergency?

Why I'm concerned
For the first time in this whole pandemic situation, I'm concerned. Not due to the virus itself, because that's a mild virus that presents no real threat to the population at large. I'm concerned about what we don't know might be going on behind the scenes here.

These preparations for large-scale medical triage tents and the emergency activation of FEMA have me worried that the American people aren't being told the whole story. Perhaps a terrorist organization is planning on releasing a wildly dangerous mutation of H1N1 in some major U.S. city. Or perhaps some vaccine maker is, in fact, that terrorist organization. (The best way to sell more vaccines would be to release a mutated form of H1N1 into the population and scare up some more sales...)

Or maybe, as some creative thinkers have suggested, the vaccine itself IS a bioweapon, and the U.S. government is preparation for large-scale fatalities it expects to see soon.

Or maybe these are just fleeting, dark visions from crazy people, and the U.S. government is a benevolent organization with all our best interests in mind, and they're jumping through these bureaucratic hoops to make sure there are plenty of hospital beds to go 'round just in case more people get really sick.

But even that explanation doesn't hold water. A "national emergency declaration" isn't necessary to waive hospital tent rules. Obama could have easily accomplished the same thing with an Executive Order, without having to invoke the National Emergencies Act or put FEMA in charge at all.

He chose the emergency declaration for a specific reason. I guess we'll all have to wait and see what that real reason turns out to be.

Sources for this story include:

USA Today:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health...

Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...

Posted 10/26/09 bobjones68 Schaumburg, IL

Brent, If history is anything to judge by, then liberals do posture and grandstand and try to come across as the saviors .. while at the same time they steal or sign away our rights and freedoms. Your points are similar to those pointed out by the article .. if there isnt enoughn vaccine to go around as it is, why declare an emergency? My observations from looking at at the various news and commentary articles on h1n1 since May leads me to the conclusion that its not a serious disease but its being overly hyped to create a sense of panic in the population. As for Alex Jones, I know he pushes the panic button pretty hard, and I take that out of the equation when looking at any articles on his sites. In other words, I do the same for him and his that I do for MSM -- take it with a grain of salt and try to ferret out the kernels of truth.

Posted 10/26/09 fadestyle Walnut Bottom, PA

i think you got me by 5 minutes ;) good job Bob, keep up the good work.

Posted 10/26/09 rightsman Las Vegas,, NV

Bobjones68, Thanks for the post. I agree with BrentRoos pretty much, Jones can't sell his dvd's if no one is scared out of their wits. However, we should be prepared for FEMA to do something that will interfere with our power to exercise our natural rights. Something is going down, the degree of harshness is the only question left. If you don't have a gun, get a baseball bat, a knife, rocks, some kind of defense. Did you know that slingshots have been outlawed in some areas? Blowguns have been outlawed in California for years. Thank you, Robert Walker

Posted 10/27/09 sjaye Chicago, IL

Is there any way we can simply demand an explanation for this "National Emergency Declaration". I recall situations like hurricanes, floods, and that power outage in which a state of emergency is declared. In those situations the reason for it was quite apparent (Hurricane) and needed no explanation. This whole swine flu thing appears blown out of proportion, and something does not appear to add up. The truth is, when you have a government that has already lost the trust of the people by passing a bailout against 90-10 public opinion, passing a stimulus against public opinion, and getting involved in unnecessary wars, when things don't add up, people are going to come up with theories and sound the alarm. The theory that Government is about to engage in mass population reduction is most likely not true, but the fact that it is being discussed can only be blamed on Government and how it has lost the trust of the people by circumventing it's agreement with the people -- the Constitution.

Posted 10/27/09 bobjones68 Schaumburg, IL

Mr Walker, I agree with you and Brent to a very large extent. Something is going down that is totally at odds with what is being reported to the masses. At the very least, I see this declaration of emergency for a flu pandemic as a *probable* power grab by the feds. Which branch or department will take and hold the power and for how long remains to be seen. What I have concerns for over this entire h1n1 'emergency' deal is that perhaps the government knowns something that is NOT being told to the public which makes the declaration advisable if not necessary. But this suspicion is exactly what sjaye was referring to -- the people have lost trust in the government and for good reason.