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Posted by Jeff Greenspan on 10/29/10


2010 Ballot Proposistion Guide sent out by AZC4L on Oct 25th......

October 25, 2010

Arizona Lovers of Liberty,

Ballot propositions can be tricky to read.  They often leave voters confused or conflicted on how to vote, and this year is no exception as we prepare for the general election on November 2nd.

We have received a lot of questions from our members about our stance on this year's ballot propositions.  We have read and analyzed the words of the propositions and have provided our analysis of them for you below.

It should be noted that only one out of all the propositions below came from the citizens of Arizona, Prop 203, The Medical Marijuana Act.  All other propositions were put on the ballot by the state legislature.  We have provided our recommendations on those as well as an explanation for our recommendations.

We encourage you to research the ballot propositions yourself before making a decision on election day.  If you disagree with our position on any of these props, then please feel free to email us at campaignforliberty.az@gmail.com.

Prop 106 Healthcare Services
Strong Yes
This ballot measure will provide Arizonans with considerable protections relative to ObamaCare.  Therefore, we strongly recommend a Yes vote on this proposition.

Prop 107 Preferential Treatment or Discrimination Prohibition
Strong Yes
This ballot measure interestingly re-implements the 1964 Civil Rights Act at the state level, which does not permit race-based quotas or "special groups" of citizens.  Under this law, if passed, all people will be considered equal in government contracting rules.  Therefore, we strongly recommend a Yes vote on this proposition.

Prop 109 Right to Hunt and Fish
No
We agree with the concepts asserted by the proponents of this proposition.
However, what the proposition actually SAYS and DOES is modify the Arizona Constitution to state, "Wildlife belongs to this state and is held in trust...."  That means that all wildlife is the property of the state of Arizona.  Therefore, it creates ambiguity in the case of a private person killing game on their own land: have they stolen from the State or have they violated the Constitution?  Constitutional changes should not be made unless they are wholly clear and wholly advantageous.  Therefore, we recommend voting against this proposition.

Prop 110 State Trust Lands
No
This proposition allows the state to exchange Trust land for other public lands and sell, lease, or manage land without auction or advertisement.  This change is rife for abuse by special interests connected to politicians.  Therefore, we recommend voting against this proposition.

Prop 111 Lt. Governor
Strong No

This proposition will change the Arizona Constitution to make the election of the second in command in the executive branch of this state dependent on political party.  Arizona has operated quite well without this for many years.  We do not recommend fiddling with the Constitution to accomplish a solution for which there is no real problem.  Therefore, we strongly recommend voting against this proposition.

Prop 112 Initiative Petitions
No

This is another amendment to the Constitution of the state, which will decrease the time citizens have to collect signatures for citizens' initiatives.  It benefits "citizens'" initiatives backed by major donors like unions and special interest groups and places true citizens' initiatives at a relative disadvantage relative to what current law states.  Therefore, we recommend voting against this proposition.

Prop 113 Right to vote a secret ballot regarding employee representation
Strong Yes

This will change the Arizona Constitution to make it a constitutional right of labor to be able to vote on their representation in a secret ballot.  Secret balloting is an underpinning of our system of government.  This is a good change and removes the subject from the political sphere and lobbyists.  Therefore, we strongly recommend voting Yes on this proposition.

Prop 203 Arizona Medical Marijuana Act
No Recommendation

This is the only proposition placed on the ballot by the people of Arizona.  The Arizona Campaign for Liberty is making no recommendation on this proposition, and we highly encourage you to read this propoition for yourself and make your own determination.

Prop 301 The Land Conservation Fund
No

State government insists this is needed to balance the budget.  The correct way to balance the budget is to bring spending into line with revenue, not to increase revenue via gimmicks.  Therefore, we recommend voting against this proposition.

Prop 302 Early Childhood Development and Health Programs
Yes

This is another mechanism being proposed to increase revenues of the general fund.  While generally it is better to balance the budget by bringing spending into line with revenue and not increasing revenue, the alternative to this is to leave the Childhood Development and Health Board in place to administer these funds.  That is less optimal than administration of these funds by the people's representatives at the state legislature.  Therefore, we recommend voting Yes on this proposition.


Special Reminder

Dr. Paul will be visiting Arizona on Friday and Saturday, November 19th and 20th!

Please be sure to check the Arizona Campaign for Liberty state page for more information and look for updates by email.  We are looking forward to seeing you there!

May the Spirit of 1776 Burn in Our Hearts Forever,

Your Arizona Campaign for Liberty Team





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Posted by Jeff Greenspan on 10/13/10


AZC4L Statewide  Broadcast email sent Oct 12, 2010!

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Save the Date!! Ron Paul @ Arizona C4L Annual Meeting

October 12, 2010


Calling all Arizona Patriots!

The Arizona Campaign for Liberty will be holding its annual meeting on Friday and Saturday, November 19th and 20th.  All events will occur in the Phoenix metropolitan area.

Friday, November 19th - Noon/Afternoon
Rally for Liberty with Dr. Ron Paul

The Arizona Campaign for Liberty will hold a rally featuring Dr. Ron Paul during the day on Friday, November 19th.   Details to follow.  This event is open to the public.

Friday, November 19th
Private Reception with Dr. Ron Paul

Friday evening, the Arizona Campaign for Liberty will be hosting a private reception with Dr. Paul.  This is a ticketed event.  Details along with the link to buy the ticket will be forthcoming in our next event communication.  Advanced ticket purchase required.

Saturday, November 20th
Arizona Campaign for Liberty Annual Meeting

All Campaign for Liberty members are encouraged to attend.  This event is open to the public, but will be ticketed.  The link for tickets will be in our next communication.

The Arizona Campaign for Liberty Annual Meeting will feature:

Dr. Ron Paul
Kirk Shelley - Nationally recognized political consultant and political trainer
Mark Lerner - Constitutional Alliance
Speaker - TBD
Sponsor booths and speakers
Professional political training
AZC4L Annual Meeting

We will be getting some group rates for hotels for those who travel to the event.

Look for our next communication with further details coming soon!


In Liberty,

The Arizona Campaign for Liberty





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Posted by Jeff Greenspan on 07/27/10


Results will be tallied and mailed out shortly


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AZ CAMPAIGN FOR LIBERTY

2010 State Candidate Survey


 

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QUESTIONS

Please answer every question and return this survey by August 2.

Sup.

Yes

Opp.

No

1.

Would you support or oppose legislation that would ensure legislators and the public be given at least 72 hours to read a bill prior to a vote?

 

 

 

Are you interested in sponsoring or cosponsoring legislation on this subject?

 

 

2.

Would you support or oppose legislation that would protect Arizona's Tenth Amendment rights by requiring the state to opt out of federal laws and programs which are not specifically authorized by the Constitution?

 

 

 

Are you interested in sponsoring or cosponsoring legislation on this subject?

 

 

3.

Would you support or oppose legislation that would exempt any firearms which are manufactured in Arizona and stay in Arizona from Federal gun control laws?

 

 

 

Are you interested in sponsoring or cosponsoring legislation on this subject?

 

 

4.

Would you support or oppose legislation that would prohibit state and local governments from selling or giving out any personal information or biometric data collected from non-criminal citizens to other government agencies (including the federal government) or private companies?

 

 

 

Are you interested in sponsoring or cosponsoring legislation on this subject?

 

 

5.

Would you support or oppose legislation that would bring transparency, full disclosure, and statutory rules of procedure to political parties, committees, and candidates?

 

 

 

Are you interested in sponsoring or cosponsoring legislation on this subject?

 

 

6.

Would you support or oppose legislation that would prohibit Arizona from cooperating with any national ID card system and block all state funding of same?

 

 

 

Are you interested in sponsoring or cosponsoring legislation on this subject?

 

 

7.

Would you support legislation that would repeal the use of speeding and red light cameras?

 

 

 

Are you interested in sponsoring or cosponsoring legislation on this subject?

 

 

8.

Would you support or oppose legislation that would prohibit the State of Arizona from implementing any federal mandate that is unfunded?

 

 

 

Are you interested in sponsoring or cosponsoring legislation on this subject?

 

 

9.

Would you support or oppose legislation that blocks any state funding of light rail?

 

 

 

Are you interested in sponsoring or cosponsoring legislation on this subject?

 

 

10.

Would you support or oppose legislation that would allow Arizonans the right to purchase insurance products outside of Arizona?

 

 

 

Are you interested in sponsoring or cosponsoring legislation on this subject?

 

 

11.

Would you support or oppose a referendum that reforms Arizona property taxes, that caps rates at .5% for residential and all other classes of property at 1%, that caps valuation increases to a max of 2% per year and that eliminates primary and secondary taxes?

 

 

 

Are you interested in sponsoring or cosponsoring legislation on this subject?

 

 


 





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Posted 08/28/10

TucsonTom
Tucson, AZ
Did my LD 30 candidates get this? Specifically, the GOP candidates because I'm pretty sure the democrats won't answer it.
Posted 08/30/10

psjudd
Willcox, AZ
I am not sure I recieved one of these surveys in LD 25... did you send one to me?
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Posted 10/27/10

AnnetteFreeman
gilbert, AZ
I think these were just sent out to the congressional districts and not to the legislative districts.Thank you though for taking an interest.


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Posted by Jeff Greenspan on 07/27/10


The Arizona Campaign for Liberty supported two citizens initiatives in this election cycle: www.prop13arizona.com and www.camerafraud.com .

Unfortunately, neither made the ballot despite heroic efforts by both efforts' volunteers, many within the C4L and may who are not C4L members.

To anyone who contributed to either effort - thank you.  This is the kind of grassroots work that results in change - even if the effort does not make the ballot.  Tens or hundreds of thousands of Arizonans were educated about the state's property tax system and how it needs to change and about the fraud that private corporations are perpetrating on Arizona and Arizonans in their speed to generate profits for themselves without due process.

I wanted to share this message with you from the Chairwoman of Prop13Arizona.com who is not a C4L member as to Prop13Arizona's signature counts.

I know we try to have fun doing our political work and we should continue doing so.  That said, when we volunteer for things like this we stand between people and what they think are hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars they think are theirs.

This is big league baseball with big stakes.  We should continue to do the right thing and have fun doing it.  But make no mistake, the bad gus are not here to have fun.  They are here to crush all opposition and destroy the traditional American way of life.  That's why our continuing support of real reform like www.prop13arizona.com and www.camerafraud.com is critical.

 

We have had many inquiries as to the number of signatures that were collected for the Prop 13 Arizona Initiative.  We certainly understand your interest in the signature count so we thought we'd take a moment to explain why we have a nondisclosure policy.

Tax limiting or tax reducing proposals can count on having opponents.  Our main opponents are the infrastructure spending lobby and public employee unions.

A signature count is the trigger mechanism by which our opponents decide whether to spend money and launch a campaign against us so our opponents are ruthless in their quest to get the information.

Sometimes we find moles among our volunteers who innocently but persistently needle us for signature count and insider information.

When that doesn't work our opponents get a little more creative and have PAC lobbyists - who should be supporters of Prop 13 Arizona but aren't - try to get information from us.

For example, a lobbyist came to us on a fishing expedition and pretended he was going to have his organization get behind Prop 13 Arizona and fund our campaign.  However, he first had to have a current signature count.  We were suspicious and sure enough the PAC declined to be of any help to us.

Then another lobbyist drew the short straw and got the job of trying to wheedle a signature count out of us.  We knew he was just pretending to support property tax reform since he had previously refused to put anything on his organization's website to let his members know that Prop 13 Arizona existed.  It quickly became obvious he too was on a fishing expedition.

Our instincts are good.  We have heard from more than one candidate that these lobbyists, along with other so-called tax limiting lobbyists, asked candidates if they supported Prop 13 Arizona.  If the candidate answered yes, the lobbyists declined to give the candidate seed money for their campaign.  The mask is off.  The lobbyists are simply posers when it comes to limiting taxes.

Since announcing we would not be on the 2010 ballot, reporters have continued working to get a signature count from us. Some have become quite exasperated with us.

You see, all the taxing districts that receive property tax revenue are now voting on their tax rates.  They know we are running Prop 13 Arizona again so we are still hanging over their tax hiking heads.  And they don't like it.  They want a signature count so they can debate the probability of our success in the next campaign and determine how far they dare raise our taxes.

Scottsdale City Council has proposed a 20% property tax rate hike, but delayed the vote till after July 1st  to see if Prop 13 Arizona would be on the November ballot. 

The Phoenix City Council is doing a hocus pocus tax rate move where they say they will lower the secondary tax rate, raise the primary tax rate, but claim to have the same total when added together.  However, since the rates are applied to different property valuation amounts, the taxes collected will be different, i.e. higher.  Requests for Phoenix's valuation information have been ignored.  We doubt they are lowering their tax collections.  After all, they just started taxing our food because they are broke.

There's no reason to give our opponents any help in their quest to defeat our tax limiting initiative.  And that's why we do not disclose signature counts.

The fight to control Arizona's property taxes is long from over.  Many people will be shocked when they receive their tax bills this fall.  They will be looking for a solution.  Prop 13 Arizona is that solution.

Look for updates throughout the summer from Prop 13 Arizona, your one true taxpayer advocate.


Lynne Weaver
Prop 13 Arizona





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Posted 07/28/10

Independence
Praha, Czech Republic
I found this explanation to be extremely informative. Like commanders on the the ground in a military engagement, intelligence information is valuable and can decide the battle or even the war. However, it would seem to me as a distant outsider that your organizations will need to share this information down the road, perhaps after the November election cycle, if only as a signal of inclusion to your volunteers. Good luck.


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Posted by Jeff Greenspan on 03/30/10


Dear Representative Burges,  

I have been asked by many residents of Arizona to comment on SB1070.  I provide what I believe to be a much better alternative at the end of this email.  

1)  Reasonable suspicion is the lowest threshold possible.  It does not equate to probable cause.  I do understand that individuals are not detained indefinitely.  That being said the fact is citizens of the United States are protected against "searches" without warrants.  I do understand that there may not be Constitutional issues in so far as the courts have ruled but that does not make it right.  There was a time in this country that we were presumed to be innocent.  Further, it was said years back when FREEDOM meant something that we would rather let 9 guilty people go then convict one innocent person.  I will agree that the illegal alien/undocumented worker problem must be addressed.  I do not see the logic in going back to the same people (federal government) that caused the problem and asking them to help be a part of the solution.   

 2)  The following language from the bill is of great concern:  

F.  (In SB1070 it is subsection E.) Except as provided in federal law, officials or agencies of this state and counties, cities, towns and other political subdivisions of this state may not be prohibited or in any way be restricted from sending, receiving or maintaining information relating to the immigration status of any individual or exchanging that information with any other federal, state or local governmental entity for the following official purposes:

1.  Determining eligibility for any public benefit, service or license provided by any federal, state, local or other political subdivision of this state.

2.  Verifying any claim of residence or domicile if determination of residence or domicile is required under the laws of this state or a judicial order issued pursuant to a civil or criminal proceeding in this state.

3.  Confirming the identity of any person who is detained.

This language in no way prohibits law enforcement from sharing the personal information of citizens of the United States during the "vetting process".  I contend that the DHS (Department of Homeland Security) has made their intentions clear.  They want the personal information of Americans either through direct electronic access or indirect access. I appreciate that currently the "federal government" has much of our personal information already.  The fact is "that information" is spread out over many departments and agencies of the federal government.  DHS wants a more centralized system and thus we have witnessed the Real ID Act 2005 and now the PASS ID Act. 

Because the standards for both Real ID and PASS ID are the adopted standards of two international organizations, AAMVA and the ICAO, the driver's license would become not simply a national ID but more accurately an international ID.  International standards are only used to facilitate global information sharing. 

The following comes from a February 2006 GCN (Government Computer News) article:

"He emphasized repeatedly that information sharing is appropriate around the world on biometric methods of identifying terrorists who pose a risk to the public. Noting that his organization already receives information about terrorist threats from around the globe, Mocny said, 'We have a responsibility to make a Global Security Envelope [that would coordinate information policies and technical standards.]'

"Mocny conceded that each of the 10 privacy laws currently in effect in the United States has an exemption clause for national-security purposes. He added that the department only resorts to its essentially unlimited authority under those clauses when officials decide that there are compelling reasons to do so."

In a 2007 article with the same publication Mocny stated "We're starting the process of biometrifying [sic] a good proportion of the world population."  Robert Mocny also stated that "information sharing is appropriate around the world, and DHS plans to create a "Global Security Envelope of internationally shared biometric data that would permanently link individuals with biometric ID, personal information held by governments and corporations."

Robert Mocny of the same DHS that has stated nearly all Americans are potentially domestic terrorists.  Under Real ID, the Secretary of DHS is given the authority in the "Official Purposes" section to add restrictions at his or hers own discretion.  Real ID currently restricts entrance to a federal facility, flying on a commercial airliner or entering a nuclear facility.  Tomorrow we could see restrictions on purchasing weapons, ammunition or even prescription drugs.  This kind of unfettered authority is unacceptable.  In Mocny's statement we see that DHS can decide when to ignore our privacy laws.  He never mentions consulting with Congress or eve the President for that matter. 

SB1070 does not create a national ID card but it does embolden the federal government.  States should not and must not depend or rely on the federal government when the states themselves can go a long way towards resolving the issue of citizenship.  There would be times when the federal government might be needed but first every state has a responsibility to only involve the federal government when all other means have been exhausted.  I cannot comprehend why a state would offer up/volunteer their own citizens personal information to a department of the federal government that has made their intentions clear.  Let us not forget DHS had made it clear that it believes domestic terrorism is a much threat as terrorism initiated outside our borders.  If they felt you were a potential terrorist would they share your personal information with other governments and/or corporations? 

Under the Real ID Act and the PASS ID Act breeder documents must be authenticated.  Nearly all citizens of the United States have birth certificates or an acceptable alternative.  We suggest a "hub" system be put in place that is solely controlled by the states.  The hub itself would not retain any information, only act as a conduit.  All DMV's would have the capability to communicate with the state issuing agencies or departments of birth certificates. 

The federal government wants birth certificates digitized and we agree.  We go one step further and believe all birth certificates must be numbered starting with the two letter abbreviation for each state.  One a birth certificate is presented to acquire a driver's license or other for of identification the birth certificate number would go into a databases as active.  If anyone else attempted to use that same numbered birth certificate the "system" would show that birth certificate had been used previously to obtain an ID document or driver's license.  At that point it would be very simple to determine if someone was attempting use another person's birth certificate or if a person was using a birth certificate that was not in the "system". 

SB1070 is enabling DHS and worse yet feeding it's addiction for the personal information of citizens.  Domicile information is not the business of DHS.  We would ask that Arizona legislators work with the legislators of the other states and agree to create the hub system I describe above.  I have talked with telecommunications companies and the network could be in place in short time.  A focused and coordinated effort must take place to digitize and number birth certificates, 

Let me add this about the confirming of identity:  We, as a country do not have the biometric data of most Islamic extremists or for that matter many of the people entering our country illegally through Mexico or Canada.  If a person comes into our country and we do not ave their biometric data there is nothing right now to stop that person from "beating" the "system".  That person can obtain a counterfeit breeder document for a couple of hundred dollars.  To spite this we are insisting all Americans be enrolled into a single global biometric identification system (facial recognition).  So much for the presumption of innocence again.  There is a person facial recognition is not used to see if a person has a driver's license in other states.  The technology does not work when hundred's of millions of images are compared.  (2003 AAMVA sponsored report conducted by the IBG (International Biometric Group).

The only reason the Real ID Act and PASS ID do not violate the 1974 Privacy Act is it is the states that are collecting the personal information of citizens that DHS wants.  The states are being used as surrogates.  SB1070 is tantamount to giving a child a free pass in a candy store.  In this case Arizona is feeding the addiction of DHS by feeding DHS citizens information. 

I have provided an alternative that calls for thinking outside the box.  Please keep in mind that even the federal government wants breeder documents authenticated.  That is because without doing so only crates perceived security and not real security.

I believe illegal immigration and the threat from Islamic extremists/terrorists is real.  We must face these threats with real solutions.

I would ask that Arizona lawmakers contact the NCSL/ALEC and urge that what we propose be addressed with the urgency required. 

Please keep in mind it is each citizens foremost responsibility to pass on to future generations,the rights, liberty and freedom they inherited at such great sacrifice from previous generations.  SB1070 does not meet that test.

Finally know that the SSN database is riddled with errors with estimates running as high as 13 million.  Admittedly most are not serious errors but that being said there is a problem with E-Verify identifies those in our country illegally less than 50% of the time correctly.  http://www.scribd.com/doc/27458614/Final-E-Verify-Report-12-16-09-2  This preceding link is of a report DHS sponsored.  The following comes from an AP story:

The online tool E-Verify, now used voluntarily by employers, wrongly clears illegal workers about 54 percent of the time, according to Westat, a research company that evaluated the system for the Homeland Security Department. E-Verify missed so many illegal workers mainly because it can't detect identity fraud, Westat said.

Representative Burges I ask that you not support SB1070.  The issue is not whether SB1070 creates a national ID.  The issue is are states going to provide DHS with enough information about each of us that it, DHS will have a centralized database with our personal information in it. 

Sincerely,

Mark Lerner  Co-Founder of the Constitutional Alliance, an organization comprised of state lawmakers, state and national groups/organizations and private citizens.

http://www.stoprealidcoalition.com/

 

 

 





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Posted 03/31/10

azpatriotgirl
Phoenix, AZ
Thanks Jeff for posting this. I was extremely disappointed to hear that Campaign for Liberty was prevented from testifying today on SB0170 in committee. So apparently it came out of committee with "no protections for law abiding Arizonan's drivers license data." (Freedoms Phoenix posted today under headline "Pearce National ID Bill Passes Out of Committee; C4L Prevented from Testifying"). I am in contact with my state legislators and they advise me that they are concerned as well and are watching the language. I encourage everyone to send an email or call and keep up the pressure!
Posted 04/04/10

Horizon3
Tucson, AZ
Well SB 1070 passed the Senate, The language for the "RealID" has been removed By Pearce, I expect the governor to sign it this week. Also Passed this last week HB 2307, The Arizona Firearms Freedom Act, with a vote of 22-8!!
Posted 04/07/10

bujin00
Shawnee, KS
As long as the language in question is removed, so be it.

AZ needs some tough new immigration laws!
Posted 04/09/10

ByteRider
Chandler, AZ
Jeff,

We need real immigration reform. I don't think an ID is the solution, I believe sanctions against employers-- of "biblical proportions"-- is necessary to resolve immigration. This is how Canada and other countries deal with illegal immigration in their country. Afterall, if you think about, there's plenty of jobs in Canada too, huh? They don't have an illegal immigration problem. Why is that? (rhetorical)
Posted 04/19/10

AnnetteFreeman
gilbert, AZ
well it passed, 17 votes for and 11 votes against.
Posted 04/22/10

Horizon3
Tucson, AZ
Get your facts straight Please!! Get a copy of the Amended as Passed bill and stop peddling an old copy.
There is language in the passed bill that prohibits any of the items you are complaining about.
Posted 05/11/10

TucsonTom
Tucson, AZ
I can't agree with you on this one, Jeff. SB1070's authors and sponsors went to great lengths to protect Arizona citizens from Real ID and similar schemes. You've contorted things a bit much here, Jeff. I believe your concerns are unwarranted. I've been around the world and I am always required to carry my passport and visa and to show them to authorities when asked, and I would certainly be asked if an officer stopped me as a criminal suspect or even for a traffic violation. In Arizona, a valid driver's license is ID enough to meet the requirements of SB1070 if you're a citizen. I don't think this is an unreasonable requirement. If your standard was adopted, a Border Patrol agent couldn't even ask a non-English speaker running North from a hole in the border fence for his or her ID.
Posted 05/21/10

OddballAZ
Tucson, AZ
Sorry but all of these fears were addressed. The AZ Campaign for Liberty really lost some credibility by crying wolf over this one. We need to do something to stand up to the Globalists who are attempting to destroy our country by using illegal aliens as political weapons against us. Claiming this bill creates a REAL ID, even in the unamended version was a real stretch. Continuing to claim it after it was amended was pure lunacy. You're only fear now is they may share information with the Federal government. The reason they might do that is clearly stated that it is restricted to verify benefits, residence, or identity. If I wanted to verify the car I saw driving down the street was yours, I'd have to tell you what kind of car I saw wouldn't I? That would be me sharing information with you. You would either say "yes that is my car" or "no it is not". In order to verify a persons ID they obviously would have to ask if "John Smith" is in the country legally. That would be sharing info. That isn't a REAL ID.

Lets focus on the globalists, communists, and elitist scum who are destroying our country. We should support our state legislators who have stood up to the globalists.
Posted 06/19/10

Mitscherman
Gilbert, AZ
While I like the idea that our driver's license could be linked to our birth certificates as a sort of National ID, the system is not in place and there is no plan to make that happen in the near future. SB-1070 is a stop-gap measure that places a guard at all points of entry and roving patrols within the home until a new security system can be installed.


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