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Posted by awake on 12/29/08Last updated 12/30/08
Saving money is evil, you should not be given any incentive to do it...
Remember ;Over spending coupled with cheap and easy credit caused this meltdown- now they want you to continue the behavior... Can any one say moral hazard ahead?
Read the following...
Tax-Free Savings Accounts debut this week despite worries about slower spending
TORONTO — Canadians will have a new way to boost their investments this week with the introduction of tax-free savings accounts - but the plan has left some observers questioning whether putting aside more cash is the right move amid recessionary times. Typically, governments want people to spend more money when the economy is struggling because it stimulates growth and keeps consumers confident.
But when Ottawa unveiled the concept in its budget last February, the economy was thriving and showed few signs of slowing down. That's one reason why Finance Minister Jim Flaherty picked Jan. 1, 2009 as the debut of the new tax-free accounts.
The plan offers Canadians aged 18 or older an account where they can invest up to $5,000 each year in the account and allow its holdings to grow tax-free.
Eligible investments include guaranteed investment certificates, bonds, mutual funds and stocks.
When the concept was first unveiled it seemed like an innovative approach to saving for the future without getting whacked by some of the usual charges associated with hanging onto money.
"We were shifting from a society of passive savers to a society of active savers," CIBC World Markets economist Benjamin Tal said
"People didn't bother with old fashioned saving because if you doubled the value of your real estate during the course of breakfast - that was your savings."
Since the plan's initial unveiling the investing landscape has changed.
The Toronto Stock Exchange's main index has tumbled 40 per cent from start of 2008, housing sales and prices have fallen, and companies are warning that the coming year could be one of the most difficult times in recent memory.
Canadians are slamming the brakes on impulse buys and risky investments.
The Conference Board of Canada found that consumer confidence in December was at its lowest level since 1981-82, when Canada suffered its worst post-war recession.
The focus now is on keeping Canadians optimistic about the country's economy, and discouraging them from hoarding too much cash away in their banks accounts.
The attitude shift has left some investors questioning whether now is the right time to be debuting the tax-free savings account.
"When you really want people to be out spending it's probably not the greatest time to be introducing it," said Chyanne Fyckes, chief investment manager at Stone Asset Management.
The government "should've delayed it by at least a year - but it's too late," she said.
Unlike the well-established registered retirement savings plans, investors won't get an up front tax reduction for putting money into a TFSA.
But the investments won't be taxed, withdrawals aren't taxed and there's no requirement for making withdrawals by a certain age, as with RRSPs and registered retirement investment funds.
Brendan Caldwell, president of Caldwell Securities, suggested the new accounts will help Canadians curb their exuberant spending habits.
"We've spent like drunken sailors for a very long time - no offence to drunken sailors," he said.
"I don't think we need any more incentives to go out and spend."
Caldwell quashed suggestions that Ottawa should have canned the plan once the economy took a dive.
"You can't introduce a major government initiative wondering what the impact is going to be over the next 18 months," he said.
Tal says once the tax-free accounts debut, they will slowly gain popularity because the tax savings will motivate Canadians to put money in places that'll benefit them in the long run.
"One of the reasons why this recession is becoming so painful is because of the fact that the savings rate was zero," he said.
Tal suggested cautious saving should be expected in this uncertain climate.
"True, you would like to see people spending now," Tal said. "But the unfortunate reality is that we have a situation in which you will see savings rising because that's exactly what happens during a recession."
He predicts that Canadians will invest $20 billion in the tax-free accounts in 2009, but that the amounts will balloon to $120 billion by 2013.
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Posted 06/23/09
 cosmicheretic Yorkton, Canada | The International Banking Cartel can't be happy with Flaherty over these accounts. How are they supposed to make max profit when they set up the next stock market crash and there is less money in it? |
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Posted by awake on 12/21/08Last updated 12/29/08

"Corporatism" - the promotion of the interests of private corporations in government over the interests of the public.
Flaherty's advisory council
Canadians from business, academe will get a dollar a year for their help
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty introduced a 11-member advisory panel of prominent Canadians who will advise him on the federal budget and the economy. He said the members will be paid a dollar a year for their insight.

Carole Taylor, shown at a news conference in Victoria on Nov. 30, 2007, will serve as chair of the economic advisory council. (Adrian Lam/Canadian Press)Carole Taylor Former B.C. finance minister
The chair of the advisory panel, Taylor served as B.C.'s minister of finance from June 16, 2005 to June 23, 2008, after winning in the riding of Vancouver-Langara in the 2005 provincial general election. Prior to that, she served as chair of CBC/Radio-Canada from 2001 to 2005. She has chaired the Vancouver Board of Trade, Vancouver Port Corporation and Canada Ports Corporation.
James A. Pattison Chairman, president, CEO and sole owner, Jim Pattison Group
Pattison, 80, leads a sprawling empire spanning the automotive, media, packaging, food sales and financial industries, and the Ripley's Believe It or Not! museums at 27 locations in nine countries. Headquartered in Vancouver, the Jim Pattison Group is one of the largest privately held Canadian companies. The company recently acquired the Guinness World Records business and employs 30,000 worldwide.

Paul Desmarais, chairman of the executive committee of Power Corporation, walks to the Power Financial Corporation annual meeting May 9, 2007 in Montreal. (Paul Chiasson/Canadian Press) Paul Desmarais Jr. Co-chairman and CEO, Power Corporation of Canada
Desmarais is chairman of the executive committee of Power Financial Corporation (PFC) and a director and member of the executive committee of many Power group companies in North America. Desmarais' father, Paul Sr., has controlled the financial services giant Power Corp. since the 1960s. The family has deep ties to Canadian politics, particularly with the Liberal Party of Canada. But the Desmarais clan has cultivated relationships with leader of many political stripes — including former prime ministers Jean Chretien, Brian Mulroney and Paul Martin, among many others.
Geoff Beattie Deputy chairman, Thomson Reuters
Beattie is president of Woodbridge Company Ltd., the investment vehicle for the Thomson family and the principal shareholder of Thomson Reuters. He is also a director of Royal Bank of Canada and is chairman of CTVglobemedia Inc.
James Irving President of J.D. Irving Ltd.
Irving is the great-grandson of James Dargavel Irving, who founded the family-owned company in 1882 in New Brunswick. The company now has operations in Eastern Canada and the U.S. and is one of the top five private landowners in North America with nearly 1.4 million hectares.
George Gosbee CEO, Tristone Capital Inc.
Gosbee started his company, a Calgary-based investment bank catering to energy clients, in 2000, when he was 30. It now has over 170 employees in five offices in Canada, the U.K., the U.S. and Argentina. Gosbee is also vice chairman of the Alberta Investment Management Corporation, a Government of Alberta fund, and chairman of the board for the Alberta College of Art and Design.
Isabelle Hudon President, Marketel
Isabelle Hudon became the new president of Marketel, a Montreal marketing company, in November 2008. Before that, she was a member of the board of Holt Renfrew for several years. She also chairs the boards of directors of the Université du Québec à Montréal, the Société du Havre de Montréal and the Fondation les petits trésors of the Rivière-des-Prairies Hospital. As well, she sits on the board of the Aéroports de Montréal.

Mike Lazaridis, one of the key architects of the BlackBerry's success, speaks at the Empire Club on March. 2, 2006 in Toronto. (Nathan Denette/Canadian Press)Mike Lazaridis Founder and co-CEO, Research In Motion
Lazaridis founded RIM, of BlackBerry fame, while he was a student at the University of Waterloo. He is responsible for product strategy, research and development, product development, and manufacturing at the company. Lazaridis has donated millions to help establish an Institute for Quantum Computing at his alma mater and helped establish the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics, also in Waterloo, Ont.
Jack Mintz Former CEO, C.D. Howe Institute
A widely published tax expert, Mintz was appointed the Palmer Chair in Public Policy at the University of Calgary in January 2008, and is leading the creation of a new School of Policy Studies at the school. He serves on several committees including the boards Brookfield Asset Management, Imperial Oil Limited, the Ontario Financing Authority, the National Statistics Council, Statistics Canada, the Royal Ontario Museum and the Board of Management, International Institute of Public Finance.
Ajit Someshwar CEO, CSI Consulting Inc.
Ajit Someshwar was born in Mumbai, India, and moved to London before coming to Canada. He founded CSI Consulting, an information technology and risk management consulting organization, in Toronto in 1996.
Annette Verschuren Division president, Home Depot Canada.
Verschuren began her career as a development officer with the Cape Breton Development Corporation in Sydney, N.S. She then worked as executive vice president with Canada Development Investment Corporation. Prior to joining The Home Depot, Verschuren was president & co-owner of Michael’s, the chain of arts and crafts stores.
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Posted by awake on 12/21/08Last updated 12/21/08

Garth Turner states the following...
"While the government cowers and the opposition squirms, while Stephen Harper licks his wounds and Stephane Dion contemplates rejection, while the economy disintegrates, houses devalue and Parliament is dark, there is something else for you to worry about. Something big. Disturbing.
Do you know what’s backing your money? You should. Because in the last 90 days this has changed drastically. There’s a big gamble been taken by politicians which was never explained, never debated, never questioned, and yet could affect us all.
Here is the way the system is supposed to work, and until this autumn, did.
* Our money’s printed by the Mint and backed by the Bank of Canada. The central bank is expected to hold assets equal to the amount of cash in circulation, which is more than $50 billion. * Because our nation no longer owns gold reserves, our money is backed by the safest of securities, long-term government bonds and Treasury bills. This is what gives our money true value. At least, until recently.
But in the last 90 days, without public notice, the Bank of Canada has sold off more than $11 billion of those secure T-bills, plus cashed in billions more of its bonds. As stock market researcher John Paul Koning discovered last week, the central bank now lists on its balance sheet a stunning $32.4 billion in “other” assets, which comprise a whopping 42% of everything it owns.
That means more than two-fifths of the total assets backing our money supply is – what, exactly?
Well, let’s flip back a month to the middle of November, when finance minister Jim Flaherty announced the federal government was purchasing $50 billion in residential mortgages from the Big Six banks, following an earlier deal to buy another $25 billion in mortgages. “At a time of considerable uncertainty in global financial markets, this action will provide Canada’s financial institutions with significant and stable access to longer-term funding,” he said, adding, “with no additional risk to the taxpayer.”
So, the “other” assets the Bank of Canada has swapped for secure, near-cash holdings appear to be tens of billions of dollars in high-ratio mortgages. The money to buy those assets apparently came from the central bank, through CMHC, and ended up in the vaults of the Big Six banks. It’s also believed that the Bank of Canada has been buying up other commercial bank liabilities, such as credit card debt.
In fact, the central bank was at it again yesterday. On its web site, the Bank of Canada announced it’s buying another $1 billion in “private sector money market instruments” on Monday.
So, what are these mortgages with tens of billions that now stand behind a good chunk of our money? They are loans given to people who bought houses with little or no money down, many of whom purchased before October 15th, when it was still okay to buy a home with a 0% down payment and to take out an amortization of 40 years. The government, under intense criticism that these were Canadian equivalents of the disastrous US subprime mortgages, chucked them two months ago.
So, here we are. The Big Banks have unloaded tens of billions of dollars in potentially toxic assets to the Bank of Canada, which cashed in ultra-secure investments to hand over cash. The federal government orchestrated this in order to make the commercial banks more secure. But in doing so, what’s it done to our currency? As Koning wrote in an article in the Financial Post last week, “Our central bank has swapped a sure thing: a large chunk of liquid and non-volatile AAA-rated government debt, for a slew of ‘other’ assets whose nature remains uncertain to everyone but bank insiders, assets which are inherently more volatile and less liquid than government debt.”
That this compromising of our money supply could happen is alarming. That it could take place without citizens being told is shocking.
Why didn’t the finance minister explain his actions? Did he understand them? Where were the opposition watchdogs? What happens now if unemployment and falling house values turn some of those mortgages worthless, as happened in the US?
Let’s hope this comes to light on the floor of the House of Commons.
Oh wait. It’s locked."
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In the U.S. they are on the verge of destroying their currency and we are making great strides in devaluing ours...
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Posted 12/21/08
 fadestyle Walnut Bottom, PA | what is going on here? this seems too coincidental with all countries going through the same thing? lets look at all the other central banks around the world and all report on what is going on there. "order out of chaos"? |
Posted 05/05/09
 Mountjoy Halifax, NS, Canada | It's all "Hollywashottawoodyingtonwa" now. Albeit, though they historically represent by far the highest expense of all manner of human destruction to each of us since the dawn of time, politicians are today swift becoming mere light entertainment; jesters to be laughed out of existence, ... for fun & for profit.
Once we vanish their global fiat mysticisms, 'Elites' are sunk, & they know it. They also know that objectively "precious" currencies will suddenly win the globe, & it will cost them all they've taken to survive ~ for even a while. But for now, most "unwashed-masses" still suffer the establishment's "ethics" of sacrifice, in return for a mere impossible set of perpetual, extra-generational lies & fiat promises.
"Sacrifice Ethos" is a complete & total, absurd & thoroughly unfunny 2600 year old Platonic joke, initiated over 110 generations ago, & continuously orchestrated to the benefit of a very minute exploitive, predatory group who choose no conscious human higher purpose to their subsistence except that of existential, directionless, life-draining, death 'n taxes-oriented "control"; essentially supported as second-handers & enviers into whatever perpetuity we allow them (through our complicitness in their freakish destructions.)
They are as low self-esteem shut-ins, wracked & disabled in the extreme by many generations of inbreeding, lack of self-creative productivity, perversions, & self-imprisonment ~ at the hands of their haughty, inane, vacuous, sociopathologic, violent egos.
The queen wears no pants; ... bye-bye, quisling merlin.
Well, ... Hello, Grampy Mises! |
Posted 06/23/09
 cosmicheretic Yorkton, Canada | This is no coincidence. The IBC is orchestrating this globally. I would not be surprised if they try to kill all the fiat monetary systems and implement a one world currency. |
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Posted by awake on 12/17/08Last updated 12/21/08


Here is an exerpt from M.Rothbards book "America’s Great Depression"
Use as a check list of really stupid moves our government will take to prolong the agony of this economic crisis.
"GOVERNMENT DEPRESSION POLICY: LAISSEZ-FAIRE
If government wishes to see a depression ended as quickly as possible, and the economy returned to normal prosperity, what course should it adopt? The first and clearest injunction is: don’t interfere with the market’s adjustment process. The more the government intervenes to delay the market’s adjustment, the longer and more grueling the depression will be, and the more difficult will be the road to complete recovery. Government hampering aggravates and perpetuates the depression. Yet, government depression policy has always (and would have even more today) aggravated the very evils it has loudly tried to cure. If, in fact, we list logically the various ways that government could hamper market adjustment, we will find that we have precisely listed the favorite “anti-depression” arsenal of government policy. Thus, here are the ways the adjustment process can be hobbled:
(1) Prevent or delay liquidation. Lend money to shaky businesses, call on banks to lend further, etc.
(2) Inflate further. Further inflation blocks the necessary fall in prices, thus delaying adjustment and prolonging depression. Further credit expansion creates more malinvestments, which, in their turn, will have to be liquidated in some later depression. A government “easy money” policy prevents the market’s return to the necessary higher interest rates.
(3) Keep wage rates up. Artificial maintenance of wage rates in a depression insures permanent mass unemployment. Furthermore, in a deflation, when prices are falling, keeping the same rate of money wages means that real wage rates have been pushed higher. In the face of falling business demand, this greatly aggravates the unemployment problem.
(4) Keep prices up. Keeping prices above their free-market levels will create unsalable surpluses, and prevent a return to prosperity.
(5) Stimulate consumption and discourage saving. We have seen that more saving and less consumption would speed recovery; more consumption and less saving aggravate the shortage of saved-capital even further. Government can encourage consumption by “food stamp plans” and relief payments. It can discourage savings and investment by higher taxes, particularly on the wealthy and on corporations and estates. As a matter of fact, any increase of taxes and government spending will discourage saving and investment and stimulate consumption, since government spending is all consumption. Some of the private funds would have been saved and invested; all of the government funds are consumed.15 Any increase in the relative size of government in the economy, therefore, shifts the societal consumption–investment ratio in favor of consumption, and prolongs the depression.
(6) Subsidize unemployment. Any subsidization of unemployment (via unemployment “insurance,” relief, etc.) will prolong unemployment indefinitely, and delay the shift of workers to the fields where jobs are available.
These, then, are the measures which will delay the recovery process and aggravate the depression. Yet, they are the time-honored favorites of government policy, and, as we shall see, they were the policies adopted in the 1929–1933 depression."
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Posted by awake on 12/13/08Last updated 12/29/08

Hopefully we can get the Canadian C4L group here into action mode soon. The precise, focused action of a few, can have a dramatic result if done in a peaceful and spirited show of intellectual resourcefulness. We should be looking for Province Leaders soon and from there take to coordinated efforts in contacting MP's as well as sending DVD information disks to our Local reps of parliament. Educating them , as well as any of those who are willing listen, is of primary concern. -Thought crossing- It would be hard to argue, that Canada is in many ways , a moderately Socialistic country. Many, including myself, have been taught to love it and all of it's manifestations in our societies institutional framework - even to the degree of Nationalistic arrogance. However,what I have come to learn, through my short time studying the Austrian School of Economics is this; Socialism, at any degree, is merely a stop over in the departure from freedom on route to our most unwelcome destination - fascism. Although it has been a slow journey thus far, we are moving along none the less. It is even easier to see that with all of the economic upheaval that is unfolding before us, I fear it will accelerate beyond what we have known.This leaves us all with the responsibility to act - for when we know better we must do better... I leave this thought of mine with a quote of a sound voice , in its time, lost in the wind... "The form and timing of the collapse is yet to be determined; the event itself is certain. This crisis will come, as others have, because we refuse to face up to reality and live within our means." – Ron Paul, 1984
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Posted 12/13/08
 Tom Leser Melbourne, FL | CC4L, gotta love it!
Is it true that about 90% of Canada's population lives near the borders with the United States?
If there's a decent C4L movement in Canada that leaves quite a bit of uninhabited land that would be fertile grounds to head to as a "Free Nation Project". Granted it's cold, but it's better to be cold, free, and alive, than the alternative. |
Posted 12/14/08
 DixieCanuck Stoney Creek, Canada | I absolutely agree and have started to work with the Libertarian Party locally. It's either them or the Freedom Party and the libertarians seem to have a bit more legitimacy. There's other avenue's available as well including this site. Getting some Precinct Leaders for Canada is a priority and I may do so myself soon.
We need a group on the ground which is why I've chosen the Libertarian Party but like most freedom fighters in Canada, they're scattered and weak. Perhaps an influx of Canadian C4Lers into the party can gets things going. We've started a Hamilton area monthly gathering to expand into my area and I plan on being a candidate if there is no Libertarian running in the next election for my area. It's really easy to be a candidate and doesn't cost much. I intend to write up a guide for being a candidate in Canada for Canadian C4Lers at some point in the future.
There may be better options and I'll be open to them but for now, I think this is the best way for the message to be heard. I personally think that a full slate of Libertarian candidates and convincing the Independent libertarian MP Andre Arthur to join the party would get them into the national debates like the Green Party did.
The WeAreChange people have several chapters in Canada and have some interesting ideas but they may be a little extreme. I did like they're confrontation of former PM Paul Martin over the North American Union though.
@ tleser Yes it is true about Canada's population and I've had that very same thought about it as a "Free State Project". If you take a closer look at the election results across the country, some areas are decided by very few votes. A political migration could have serious and immediate effects here. |
Posted 12/18/08
 mikeyc3 halifax, Canada | I'm in! I live very close to Mount Saint Vincent(NDP/neo-Lib heaven), and we desperately need a liberty movement here. My guess is that it will take some time here in Halifax, but places in Alberta , New Brunswick and maybe rural Ontario could have immediate success. Let me know people, and I will work till my back breaks. |
Posted 12/19/08
 pszcz1 North Vancouver, Canada | I think it is feasible, though difficult, to impregnate the Conservatives with these ideas. The economic intuitions are there, though views on personal liberty stagnant. |
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