An extremely complex graph of the Free Market Health Care solution

Posted by Andrew Ward on 07/22/09 3:40 PM
Last updated 07/22/09 4:14 PM
 
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http://www.thehamiltonpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Free-Market-Chart.gif

Compare this to an overly simple graph of the government's health care scheme:







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Posted 07/22/09 3:45 PM

m00nmaster
Scotch Plains, NJ
It really is that simple.

Posted 07/22/09 3:55 PM

Marc Tancer
Montville, NJ
compare this one to the one to the government's health care plans- that chart was unbelievably large and complex.

Posted 07/22/09 4:14 PM

jnanzar
Orem, UT
i love this plan, its genius.

Posted 07/22/09 4:31 PM

helionaeic
Defuniak Springs, FL
This should be on a t-shirt

Posted 07/22/09 5:08 PM

Casey Anderson
Cedar City, UT
This should be on a t-shirt

Posted 07/22/09 5:15 PM

DaveHamilton
Upland, CA
Thanks for posting this Andrew. Great idea w/ the shirt guys. I'll get working on that. I wish I would have thought of this before the health care protests. It would have worked nicely on a sign.

There is a pdf available on my blog to fax to Congress or the President tonight: http://bit.ly/1fDiJZ

Posted 07/22/09 5:51 PM

flaunt
Duluth, GA
This should be on a t-shirt

Posted 07/22/09 5:56 PM

AdamCabrera
Upland, CA
No, no, no... that's too simple. If we have something more complex then it'll be more expensive! More complex and paying more is better, right!?

Posted 07/22/09 6:08 PM

BillNM
Carlsbad, NM
That is MRoCkEd's chart from several days back. As usual our C4L guys are way ahead.

Posted 07/22/09 6:45 PM

Rix Rix
Winston Salem, NC
I would like to see a graph of the system in place..

Posted 07/22/09 8:50 PM

paulsjv
Austin, TX
Don't forget to post the House Democrats Plan! :)

http://docs.house.gov/gopleader/House-Democrats-Health-Plan.pdf

Posted 07/22/09 9:06 PM

BruceKoerber
Cedar Rapids, IA
Under this 'free market' system what do you think would be the likelihood that there would be an obesity epidemic?

Consumers have to produce something to have the income to 'consume.' To have a voluntary exchange with the health care provider the consumer would have to have an income from some productive service.

If you think the obesity problem is bad now just imagine how much worse it would be if nobody had to be productive to get these services. How ironic that the government sings its tune about obesity while at the same time puts in place all the incentives that create the problem!

This is an example of how all problems are caused by the ego-driven interventionists and all problems are magnified and made exponential by more ego-driven intervention.

Posted 07/22/09 9:13 PM

Ike Hall
Clarkston, GA
Idea for T-shirt front:

How do you like your healthcare? Like this?
[complex graph]

back:

...or this?
[simple graph, plus C4L logo]

Posted 07/22/09 9:33 PM

hash3m
Seattle, WA
Awesome post Andrew Ward. Note, this simple 2-way chart (aka the Free Market) applies without exception to EVERY POSSIBLE service the government attempts (or pretends) to provide.

The point is well made. Not unpredictably in this case, the example is readily accepted. Now let's follow the logic all the way... :)

Posted 07/22/09 9:52 PM

fadestyle
Walnut Bottom, PA
i like the tshirt idea

Posted 07/22/09 9:53 PM

Erik Gumbrecht
Tooele, UT
Funniest thing I've seen all day...freaking awesome!

Posted 07/23/09 12:22 AM

AuthenticAuthor
Canutillo, TX
"Don't forget to post the House Democrats Plan! :) "

Thanks for the link paulsjv. I see that the Democrats attempted to simplify the plan...but failed of course. LOL

The real problem behind the bureaucracy chart is not the web of relationships between each agency, but rather the nature of those relationships; even private companies have relations with other private companies in order to get a service/product to happen. The difference, of course, is that bureaucracies enjoy a relatively high amount of protection from competition. This is not only due to their assured income through force (a.k.a taxation) but also due to the fact that no other agency is allowed to splinter off and be its own business. Through this there is comparatively little incentive to work hard, or to work at all. In fact, individual bureaucrats enjoy the same protection as well. (Ever wonder why it's so hard to become a federal employee, but so easy to stay one in comparison to the private sector? There you go.) Secure in this cabal of sorts, bureaucracies will seek to grow at the expense of the more tax-payer, the private entrepreneur and, ultimately, productivity itself. Why produce something of value when you're just going to be robbed and barred from trading?

Keeping this in mind, government run health-care (or any government-run service) will never be as efficient ,or honest, as that found in the private sector. More importantly, if the current proposal is passed, it will eventually spell ruin for private health-care as well.

Posted 07/23/09 01:57 AM

Paul S.
Brighton, MI
Under “Individual Responsibility Requirements”
- Enroll in acceptable coverage
- Non-compliance tax on individual
- Entity providing coverage must file a return to Secretary on individual’s compliance.

Command, control and conquer amounts to enslavement. Responsibility is an individual’s free act and it can never be the product of coercion or command. Threatening to steal the individual’s wealth in order to control behavior is appalling. Compelling entities to snitch on another’s lifestyle choices is repugnant at best. This plan is philosophically bankrupt.


Posted 07/23/09 07:11 AM

MichaelBarry
Sebring, FL
lol This is the first thing I looked at this morning.
Absolutely hilarious.

Posted 07/23/09 10:07 AM

WarIsARacket
Boynton Beach, FL
Nice

Posted 07/23/09 10:31 AM

Ted Kirkpatrick
Manassas, VA
Apparently the Dems don't appreciate the diagram the Republicans came up with:

Democrats Block GOP Health Care Mailing

Democrats are preventing Republican House Members from sending their constituents a mailing that is critical of the majority’s health care reform plan, blocking the mailing by alleging that it is inaccurate.

House Republicans are crying foul and claiming that the Democrats are using their majority to prevent GOP Members from communicating with their constituents.

The dispute centers on a chart created by Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas) and Republican staff of the Joint Economic Committee to illustrate the organization of the Democratic health care plan.

In a memo sent Monday to Republicans on the House franking commission, Democrats argue that sending the chart to constituents as official mail would violate House rules because the information is misleading.

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/55_12/news/37125-1.html?type=printer_friendly

Posted 07/23/09 4:28 PM

Glenn
Cumming, GA
Yes, it is that simple!

Yes, the U.S. Government has wasted so many resources and caused so much misallocation of capital, I wonder how many more diseases would have cures, how many diseases would not have been created, how much healthier we'd be - mentally physically, spiritually.

Yes, there is a private-sector solution and no need for a coercive State.


Posted 07/23/09 5:01 PM

Ricky201
North Bend, WA
A free-market solution so easy it should be illegal!

...oh wait...

Posted 07/23/09 5:33 PM

BillNM
Carlsbad, NM
Glenn, I don't think they have had any capital to misallocate for a very long time.

If you have followed some of my prior comments you know that I have sent several people to Bangkok for medical treatment where they have a free enterprise system. The service is far superior; the cost is significantly less than the same service in the States and that includes Air Fare and travel expenses; and in one instance saved a person's life.

I've been around a while and was raised poor before Medicare and I never remember anyone missing out on medical care whether they could afford it or not. Just another power grab by the central government.

Posted 07/23/09 7:11 PM

Glenn
Cumming, GA
BillNM, no, I have not seen those comments. Good to know about Bangkok.

So I've heard about the pre-Medicare days.

Another couple of marks against government intervention.


Posted 07/29/09 06:08 AM

celticreeler
Rolla, MO

Andrew,

I ran a booth at my county fair, 7/22-25, where the emphasis was allowing individuals access to information about/an opportunity to sign a petition against the health care reform "plans" snaking their way through Congress. I took the scary convoluted chart, had the printer blow it up to about 30" by 36", and put it on an easel out front. The typical progression of facial expressions when visitors saw the visual aid was consternation, disbelief, disgust, and anger.

People in my area are tuned in with respect to the personal consequences of political dissent, and when 125 people signed petitions to the two U.S. Senators and their Representative (each), I took the responsibility of making disposition of these petitions very seriously. Certainly there were other ways of lodging a protest, but I was forced by the threat of stealth legislation to make a decision quickly, and petition signing seems to offer people psychological relief, as well as redress of grievances.

I drove 100 miles one way on Monday, 7/27/09, to hand deliver the petitions to Sen. McCaskill's St. Louis Office Director at the Health Care Town Hall meeting. Roughly 500 other citizens appeared there, far more than were expected, to voice their very informed opinions that complete nationalization of health care, which is what is in these 1,000+/600+ page monstrosities, is not their mandate/desire.

I plan to drive 60 miles today to deliver the petitions to Sen. Bond's office.

Letter mail delivered to DC is held up for two to three weeks by DHS processing, which is the unfortunate reality (though mail from my elected representatives flies into my mailbox unhindered.) Just another reason, of many, that legislation should not be rushed.






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