I wish Jones answered the questions better, but I won't blame the guy for trying to promote the bill and speaking highly of Ron. He's one of the few Republican's that stand behind him on foreign policy issues I believe. He was also one of the first people to jump on 1207 when it was introduced.
My thoughts exactly, Kathy. FBN, apart from Faux News, in general, is very Ron Paul friendly. She seems to be trying to make the speakers look like morons and defending the Fed at the same time. "Why are you doing this instead of trying to create jobs?". That's not reporting the news. That's pushing an agenda.
Posted 05/20/09 01:49 AM SwordOfLight San Diego, CA
Maybe the CFL can get Paul on to talk about this directly. Jones did not adequately prepare himself for a 10min interview, but rather a 2min one. It showed. The whole interview I was going over so many additional things he could have said.
She is absolutely deplorable. Was Dr. Paul not available? Or perhaps even his son or Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, Mark Sanford, Jesse Ventura or hell... even Lou Dobbs? Who decided to interview Walter Jones? If we are serious about getting the message out, then there has to be some modicum of quality control.
haha, wow, what a little *insert here*. They def. need to get Ron Paul on there cause apparently she needs an educational smackdown.
Seriously, she doesn't do research on twenty minute news reports? Commmmonnn. Google the Federal Reserve in youtube and her questions would have been answered.
Ack, it seems none of them have seen the video where Bernie Sanders asked where the 2.2 trillion went... or the one with the "inspector general" of the Fed. I guess they don't spend as much time online as we do.
Were the rest of you thinking about the answers to the questions she was asking while the congressman was fumbling to respond? Its really annoying when you see someone who should be an expert not able to answer the questiions for something they support. But Ron Paul would have been too straight forward for her. I don't think she was after real answers, she just wanted to make the fed look good.
Wow, the media and politicans are really turning the heat on us and our movement. I think this is a good sign, we are being acknowledged as a threat to the establishment and they now are really starting to fear us. Make sure to sign this petition to Nancy Pelosi to bring HR 1207 to the Floor for a vote: http://www.campaignforliberty.com/campaigns/petitionpelosi.php
Wow the Israeli MSM is getting more obvious in their attempts to slander legitimate news stories. The only reason this is being brought up AT ALL is because it has a real chance of passing without ever being mentioned on Israeli News.
Both reporters were playing dumb and laughing at the bill, I love how little miss taxpayer was pretending to care about the tiny sum it would take to audit the fed, where was she when they robbed trillions from taxpayers, should she not have been tearing down the studio when these events happened? Or does she applaud because a half black man said it will be good for us.
She was impeccably prepared, these interviewers who all of a sudden become experts whenever a patriot is on a news story are all planned out. If Obama was being interviewed they would never speak over him, they would never try and use trick questions!!!
From the beginning of the interviews she was trying to speak over her guests!!! WHO DOES THAT! Only when they are told to, of course. She was clearly in some kind of live message software on her laptop receiving the next thing to say to her guests. I think anyone can guess who was on the other end of the laptop.
"In the middle of a pro liberty speech, the American People(BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT CONGRESSMAN BUT BUT BUT STOP TALKING CONGRESSMAN BUT BUT BUT SHOULDNT YOU BE MAKING JOBS BUT BUT LET ME INTERERRUPT YOU BUT BUT...) This is a disgusting blatant good example of how the MSM attacks every real news story.
It is more than apparent that Fox has handed out some talking points to dilute the movement to audit the Federal Reserve.
I think Fox News now regrets the exposure allowed Ron Paul. The same folks that are behind the Federal Reserve also own the Media. We will be seeing less of Ron Paul now.
This is the time for all of us to contact our representatives on their respective websites and push H.R. 1207.
I like Walter Jones, but between his lack of knowledge of the Fed and the purple lady lies my urge to smash both of them with a hammer.
I couldn't watch the whole thing. I was getting quite frustrated.
Posted 05/20/09 06:31 AM Justin DeWind Grand Rapids, MI
I'm perfectly happy with a journalist challenging various views. Admittedly, her questions were somewhat dumb and indefensible. Especially with regards to how much this audit would cost and whether we are spending too much time on this and not enough on 'creating jobs'.
Definitely disappointing; but I agree that it shows how underprepared those who have signed on to HR 1207 are to explain what exactly they're supporting, and we as constituents have to be prepared to speak up in their place when our representatives are either too meek or too incompetent to put up the fight that needs to occur.
I would have answered that the there is nothing wrong with 1207, and that it, in fact, is probably one of the shortest, most poinant, and efficent pieces of legislation passed by Congress in years, if not decades. Does anybody remember the money passed for Obama? The "tiny, porky amendments" that the Senator from New York wanted?
As for creating jobs, it's simply is not what the government does. These anchors are supposed to be businesspeople, but they're Keynesians. Inevitably, they will support a position that the government can be an efficient employer, but we all know they're simply efficient wastes of time and taxpayer money. The *market* must create these entities!
Finally, we must come to terms with her first question, when has Bernanke or the governors of the Board of the Federal Reserve refused to answer Congress' questions about the Reserve's activities? My answer would have been: all the time! In almost all of the House Financial Committee's meetings, Ron asks Bernanke to answer some question, in which Bernanke steadfastly aborts or dodges the question. Jones simply didn't do his homework on this issue, and the lady knew it. If it was Ron Paul up there, she wouldn't have dared tossing around silly questions. The truth is though, we must all be prepared to answer these questions at every turn, and in my opinion, try to throw them back at the inquisitors; That is an effective defense of liberty.
I highly reccomend sending Dr. Paul's "Texas Straight Talk" article "Audit the Fed, then End It" to your Congressman/woman. Include a nice short personal letter with it. Here's the article: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/93449
Auditing the Federal Reserve should have been included in 1913 Act if Congress is going give up it Constitutional role "To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof".
FBN woman throw in that this is a waste of time and Congress should be creating jobs, what a joke.
That woman makes it hard for anyone to believe that one must have relevance, or an IQ of over 100, to be afforded the opportunity to speak to the people in mass form. I'm a peaceful person, but have just found myself so open to the idea of hitting someone.
Posted 05/20/09 08:33 AM justinb Oklahoma City, OK
The news lady's argument about the cost to audit the Federal Reserve when they could possibly be printing over 7 Trillion under cover is about the weakest argument I have EVER heard. If you're going to whine about tax payer money, there is a multitude of other examples for this argument, and any rational person should be able to see this.
I have an answer to her question on how much it will cost the people:
Obviously, this is another 800+ billion dollar stimulus. We will have to bail out all the failing banks and companies, again. Yes. It will cost the tax payers FAR more than what has already been taken from them. She needs to wear a paper bag over her head next time she tries to speak. Perhaps then her words will more accurately describe what is coming out of her mouth: Muffled Crap.
Yes, that woman is insufferable. Rupert Murdoch is behind the scene pulling her puppet strings....
Posted 05/20/09 09:20 AM friends of P Albuquerque, NM
What is with the puprle-sheeple eater???
First she says they've been following the fed's appearances before congress then she asks if they have had any resistance from the fed??? Was she not paying attention? Of course congress gets resistance from the fed. Bernanke has come out and said to Dr. Paul that they will resist giving certain types of info.
Knighted, once again I see you are smearing C4L with your race and religion baiting comments. I suggest you change your member name from the self-arrogated title of nobility, Knighted, to benighted, which would better describe your destructive commentaries.
With regard "his son or Chuck Baldwin, Bob Barr, Mark Sanford, Jesse Ventura or hell... even Lou Dobbs?"
Consider this perspective... none of them have an ability to vote on the Fed. Walter Jones could vote on the Fed, (if Pelosi allows such a vote).
To simply have RP put forward the message will not work. We need multiple voices demanding accountability. And since Rep. Jones votes, his voice matters more than the names you mentioned... even if he does not speak with the clarity offered by others.
Posted 05/20/09 10:12 AM WinstonSmith1984 Oceania, United Kingdom
Poor Congressman Walter Jones. I do believe he was well intentioned, but he probably should have gone through a mock-run interview first. He should expect to hear all of those questions.
And what in the world is going on with that anchorwoman insisting that Congress should be out making new jobs, not auditing where all of our money is going!?!
Darrell Delamaide represents hypothetical opponents of HR 1207 as believing that the Fed ought to remain free of political control and that HR 1207 is opening the door to greater political control over the central bank. HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! 1) There should be no central bank in a free market. 2) The people who are forced to use the fiat currency produced by the central bank have an interest in knowing what that central bank is doing to their "money." 3) Elected representatives in Congress are the only ones who can use the force of the State to discover what the central bank has done and is doing. 4) Once the American people see ALL of the horrible things that have been done by the Fed, the follow up to HR 1207 should be HR 833 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:13:./temp/~bddeUi::|/bss/d111query .html|)
justjames, that's great! I just added her @JennaFBN on twitter and sent a message. Make sure to add the #tcot hashtag too so we can end up at tcotlinks.com
I'll email her now as well.
I think it was great that Walter Jones was on here INSTEAD of Ron Paul. We need to be getting more and more house members to be pushing these issues besides just Dr. Paul. Somebody earlier had it right that he was more prepared for a 3 minute interview vs. an 8 minute one and I don't think he expected to get questions like "What is the Federal Reserve in your opinion?".
Posted 05/20/09 10:38 AM MountainDoc Lewisburg, WV
I'm going to take the time to write Congressman Jones a thank you letter for the interview and let him know we're behind him on the issue.
Good guy, but there are several on C4L that could have done a better job. The lady is a dingbat.
"In the US today, we have in effect two governments. We have the duly constituted government, then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve, operating the money powers which are reserved to congress by the Constitution."
Wright Patman, Texas Congressman, 50 YEARS AGO!
Posted 05/20/09 11:03 AM Andrew Ward Arlington, VA
Walter Jones did a really good job. I appreciate he went on there to support HR 1207.
I do think that Rep. Jones could have done a better job preparing for this interview. He should have known that he was about to be blindsided with technical questions as the bill has gained in popularity and the Fed will go to extrodinary measures to make sure that they retain their power over the monetary policy of the United States.
True, Ron Paul could have done a much better job of answering these questions, but we do need the other Representatives to be able to answer these types of questions if the bill is to maintain credibility. Perhaps, Ron Paul's meetings with the other Rep's should cover more basic economics.
My favorite question by this woman was "do you bring in, like ah, brokerage firms as consultants in this?" She apparently isn't even aware that accounting firms, not brokerages, conduct audits. Supposedly, this is a business network. Have these two ever heard of Sarbanes Oxley, Enron, or Arthur Anderson? Do they even know what an audit is? Even the hosts on CNBC seem like geniuses compared to these two. I don't think that they're playing dumb, I think they really are.
Yeah, she's just a pretty face with a laptop in front of her and an earpiece both telling her what to say next. There were probably one or more back-room producers/shills directing her words.
If those are the best attack questions they can think of, a more knowledgeable interviewee would be able to handle them rather easily.
I think Rep. Jones did a good job. I think he is still learning and it does show. Here's a video where he interviews Dr. Paul:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJlalxi9HMM&feature=channel
Rep. Jones admits that he's not an expert and is looking to Paul for guidance. Just give him some time to learn and give his arguments more, and I think he could become an important part of the liberty movement.
@hlkman - I agree, hopefully this line of questioning in this interview will encourage him to understand this topic even more. He needs to be able to educate the masses, who are clueless much like Jenna, while explaining what the bill accomplishes.
Posted 05/20/09 12:54 PM yadranko Hong Kong, Hong Kong
THe lady kept reading her questions off the computer screen, they were written by a team of people trying to confuse the congressman and destroy the HR 1207.
Very courageous stand by congressman Walter Jones who gave good answers.
The blame should go squarely on Jones for this botched interview. The lame questions she lofted were just begging to be hammered home with quality answers centered around liberty and the constitution. I honestly can't believe that Jones wasn't able to bring it home. I can't really blame her for interrupting, after all, he wasn't really answering her questions. At the end of it I got the impression that he just trusts RP because they're close friends. It hopefully isn't the case, but geez, figure out what the federal reserve is before you go onto a show decrying it!
Posted 05/20/09 1:22 PM BruceKoerber Cedar Rapids, IA
Are these reporters actually that naive and ill-informed?
Did they get their jobs because of conections but really have no intellectual qualifications?
FOX Business reporters, if these two are representative of the others, are airheads.
Wow, that was brutal, Walter Jones is just a sheep, unable to answer her questions eloquently, and making us look bad in the process:
* Do we have an instance of the fed denying information?
Walter Jones: This is Ron Paul running the show. I don't know any particular instance
Correct answer: Yes, the fed has in repeated occasions denied disclosing information about which banks have received how much money, when asked by the congress. Several videos showing this.
* Is this a case of the government using my tax dollars to audit the government?
Walter Jones: we are also creating jobs
Correct answer: No, the fed is a private entity, and one that currently has more power than the government itself. This bill allows both the congress and the American public to see some of the immoral and abusive powers the FED has exercised.
* What are you trying to accomplish:
Walter Jones: Ron Paul is running the show
Correct answer: expose the FED for what it is doing, and help America realize the damage they have done. If enough people see the truth, the end goal would be to abolish the fed.
* Why now:
Walter Jones: Because of AIG
Correct answer: The FED created the house bubble with their manipulation of interest rates. And they continue to create inflation and help their friends. It is time to start looking at the failed monetary policy, and to expose their responsibility in the current crisis. Rather than changing course, the FED is simply stepping on the gas.
I called Rep. Jones' office and prefaced by saying that I thought it was great that he supports HR1207 and is speaking out against the Fed, but please visit CFL and get more information on why the secretive Fed needs to be exposed. Otherwise, his representation of the bill being unprepared does nothing to help the cause and makes it appear to be a trivial piece of legislation, even given the tremendous number of co-sponsors.
All his aid could say was "I bet he did better than you could do". I just simply laughed a bit and re-iterated that my wish wasn't to criticize the congressman, but to offer encouragement to become more educated on the Fed and what HR1207 is trying to accomplish.
I think the congressman did a great job; most people have never spoken in front of a camera, nor an audience. I have spoken in front of a camera and an audience of 300 - it can be intimidating, especially when you are being questioned.
For a policy interview, I would give him a "B-". He handled the attack questions well, even though he was somewhat lacking in knowledge.
I agree with C00kieM0nster; we should praise a congressman for sticking his neck out, not insult him. What if the congressman reads your posts and it discourages him? We need to give him constructive criticism, literature and congratulations for walking into the killing zone!
Liberty movements only gain support when we educate and support one another.
How anyone could suggest that an audit of the Fed may be a bad idea is beyond lunacy. She may have been playing devil's advocate, but she certainly seemed determined to downplay this bill as much as possible. Incredible.
I called Rep. Jones' office and prefaced by saying that I thought it was great that he supports HR1207 and is speaking out against the Fed, but please visit CFL and get more information on why the secretive Fed needs to be exposed. Otherwise, his representation of the bill being unprepared does nothing to help the cause and makes it appear to be a trivial piece of legislation, even given the tremendous number of co-sponsors.
All his aid could say was "I bet he did better than you could do". I just simply laughed a bit and re-iterated that my wish wasn't to criticize the congressman, but to offer encouragement to become more educated on the Fed and what HR1207 is trying to accomplish.
That girl is such a BIMBO! These people represent Fox Business news and none of them has watched the Congressional hearings?!!! the Fed refuses over and obver to answer questions, are these people asleep?
Apparently chickie poo knows nothing about economics or our monetary system, it doesn't sound like Walter Jones knows much either from his responses. Pretty sad.
Tim:
I completely agree. My point has nothing to do with having Ron himself up in the lime light every time. My point was that we can't have someone represent the collective efforts if they can't adequately represent those efforts; a modicum of strength is needed. It goes back to the saying, "A chain is only as strong as its weakest link." There were a myriad of other politicians/celebrities that could've thrown their weight around. Imagine if someone like JJ Abrams was interviewed about abolishing... I'm getting ahead of myself... "Auditing" the Fed or perhaps Will Ferrell. A good friend of mine was a Bush supporter and then became a convert to Obama because he decided he didn't like Bush due to the economy. He has never bothered to educate himself despite my best efforts to bait him in conversations. I tried many times to get him to ask me the questions... I could tell him every day "It isn't the President it is the system" and he wouldn't absorb anything I told him... you can't educate the unwilling I guess. However, he loves Will Ferrell. Ferrell put a comedy tour together where he traveled around giving a "BUSH Stand Up" performance. He blatantly bashes the government up and down. I showed my friend the stand-up and all of a sudden I had his interest and he started asking me questions and even acting like he knew the problems all along. So, there again, I'm 100% in agreement with you. I should contact JJ Abrams. Hopefully he is a Paul supporter.
Tim:
I completely agree. My point has nothing to do with having Ron himself up in the lime light every time. My point was that we can't have someone represent the collective efforts if they can't adequately represent those efforts; a modicum of strength is needed. It goes back to the saying, "A chain is only as strong as its weakest link." There were a myriad of other politicians/celebrities that could've thrown their weight around. Imagine if someone like JJ Abrams was interviewed about abolishing... I'm getting ahead of myself... "Auditing" the Fed or perhaps Will Ferrell. A good friend of mine was a Bush supporter and then became a convert to Obama because he decided he didn't like Bush due to the economy. He has never bothered to educate himself despite my best efforts to bait him in conversations. I tried many times to get him to ask me the questions... I could tell him every day "It isn't the President it is the system" and he wouldn't absorb anything I told him... you can't educate the unwilling I guess. However, he loves Will Ferrell. Ferrell put a comedy tour together where he traveled around giving a "BUSH Stand Up" performance. He blatantly bashes the government up and down. I showed my friend the stand-up and all of a sudden I had his interest and he started asking me questions and even acting like he knew the problems all along. So, there again, I'm 100% in agreement with you. I should contact JJ Abrams. Hopefully he is a Paul supporter.
Mr. Jones did his best to answer his questions, but it is even more difficult to answer a question, when someone is speaking over you. Her questions were ok, except for that one about job creation. What does it matter if the fed is increasing the amount of money that is out there? This only devalues the dollar further.
These people are oblivious of the Fed's actions. Highly uninformed. I wish it was me being interviewed - I would've splashed some reality on their face.
I don't believe either one of the guests knew exactly what they were talking about. The media is trying to portray HR1207 as some disgruntled know nothings. Congress should be educated on the power of Fed has.
In all fairness, it would be good if congress had some education or enlightenment on the origins of the FED, Walter Jones does not and that is clear. Case in point Wilson did not create the FED and the "end result" should be the elimination of central banking. The interviewers I do not think were trying to be cobative, they just clearly did not understand the content of this issue.
Thank you Mr. Walter Jones! It's great to see other people starting to stick up for our message. From what I can tell, Mr. Jones has been especially kind to Ron Paul, and that takes quite a bit of courage. :)
She absolutely obliterated Rep Jones in a completely intellectual and civil manner. She did her job as a journalist: ask good questions that impact the tax payer/her viewer.
While Rep Jones seems to be a very kind man with the best of intentions, he is obviously not terribly informed on the topic of monetary policy and economics. This is a shame as it is likely the norm amongst those that we've elected to run our country - yes, it would be great to force career politicians to get educated on the topic as she suggested. I guess they can't all be Ron Paul. To Jones' credit, he does have the intelligence to back Ron Paul and what Rep Pal proposed in congress, even though Mr. Jones obviously doesn't understand (or at least cannot effectively communicate) all of the reasons for doing so.
When asked about whether this is "the right time" and whether or not he should be focusing on more important tasks such as that of "creating jobs," he should have answered that that unchecked Fed has been allowed to create a vicious bubble and business cycle that is currently a large reason we are experiencing unemployment! If the Fed had been better checked, the monetary inflation we currently suffer from may have been prevented, avoided much of the malinvestment of capital that created a distorted economy and our bubble. The Fox correspondent teed him up to knock it out of the park with her questions, and unfortunately Rep Jones was not equipped well enough to give all the great answers that the public needed to hear. I don't blame him, not everyone is a Ron Paul. I do blame the constituents who voted him into office without demanding he have a better understanding of how economics work and what role the Fed plays. Again though, regards and gratitude to Rep Jones for making an effort and, most importantly, cosponsoring HR 1207 to expose the Fed to "sunlight."
It's true, speaking into a camera can be intimidating. I also think she was a total B. Only after consistantly being shown stupid on national television did she back off the sarcasm and fake puppy eyed look.
these people are actors is it that hard to believe?
If these people had any idea what they were talking about, they'd know that the audit should come no matter what the cost. Especially Ms. Purple over there, with her "Should we be spending taxpayer money on this?" questions.
If only people asked that question about every other thing the government does.
Walter Jones needs to educate himself better about what the FED is and does before he goes on TV to support HR 1207.
I imagine next to all of the co-sponsors are ignorant like him. We need a Thomas Woods Meltdown book give away to these people. Sheesh that was hard to watch!
Cookiemonster and aggressivepolicy, no one (speaking for myself at least) is hating or insulting on anyone. We simply want our agenda to be adequately represented and discussed. If one can't do that they probably shouldn't take TV interviews agreeing to it. If that was his first interview I'd be a little softer (I highly doubt it was for a seasoned politician), but even if it was, this is the real world, he's a friggin Congressman for the United States of America. Hundred's of thousands of people trust and vote for him to make good decisions. It's no joke and if he was taking things lightly maybe he should be taken to task so that he gets his tush in gear and figures out why he's voting the way he is and why he can't answer a couple of easy questions.
I've been taken to task by authority figures in the past and it's always been a good learning experience because we all knew that I took the task at hand lightly. You take a bite of humble pie and you resolve to do better next time. We all make mistakes, but praising a clear-cut failure is akin to flying onto an aircraft carrier with a "mission accomplished" banner self-congratulating a war that was on the cusp of epic failure.
This is forgivable and won't do any damage, but galldarnnit he can do better than that and I think he knows it.
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